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p.10 #1 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Thanks, Boris! Yes, my lens is very nice indeed, BUT it is on a crop sensor, and backfocus is not an issue for the NEX. I will bring it, as ordered, to the Lofoten, so you can try it there if you want.


Jan 30, 2011 at 02:41 PM
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p.10 #2 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


lovely shots uhoh and philber.

i've been playing with with my contax g 45mm and it seems that it's extremely high contrast is beneficial for high iso shots. i'm seeing much less visible noise in shots from it than at the same iso with lower contrast lenses. i should do a direct comparison to be sure, but here's a few example shots:

iso 3200 pushed to iso 19200:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5251/5402188162_8890cc485b_o.jpg
iso 3200 pushed to iso ~10000
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5389083915_20d0b8ec04_o.jpg



Jan 30, 2011 at 03:17 PM
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p.10 #3 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Amazing, Sebboh! How do you do that, push the exposure in post?


Jan 30, 2011 at 03:27 PM
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p.10 #4 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


philber wrote:
Amazing, Sebboh! How do you do that, push the exposure in post?


just bumping the exposure setting in lightroom. it would probably look better if i took the time to set the right iso in camera, but these are just quick grab shots.



Jan 30, 2011 at 06:31 PM
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p.10 #5 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


uhoh7 - Iso 2-400, I see hence no noise. That makes sense. Thanks

Philber -Wonderful shots with ZM50. They all seem to show strong three dimensionality of statue's volume. Very nice color and lighting on first shot is great. What is your finding so far?

sebboh - It is amazing how you keep noise to minimal with such high ISO shots. Especially the first shot, with large dark area, I'd expect more noise.

Akul





Jan 30, 2011 at 11:03 PM
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p.10 #6 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Thanks for the kind words, Akul!
IMHO the ZM 50mm f:2.0 is a first-class lens. Detail, sharpness, colour, contrast, 3D, it has it all. I have done a couple of shoot-outs with the well-respected C/Y 35-70, where it always come out better. It also outperforms the ZM 35 Biogon C f:2.8. I haven't tested it wide open or close up, which aren't my usual shooting conditions. I also use it on a crop camera, so I wouldn't know about edge performance in FF. The fact that it isn't that expensive (for a Zeiss, that is), is a bonus. I haven't tried the more expensive and faster 50mm f:1.5, so I can't compare them. The fact that mine is a Planar and the f:1.5 is a Sonnar indicates that they are not at all identical in design.



Jan 31, 2011 at 02:44 AM
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p.10 #7 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Hi Philber. Thank you for the report on ZM50. I still have not decided on any range finder lens yet, but ZM 50 sure looks really good.

Akul



Jan 31, 2011 at 06:19 AM
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p.10 #8 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


some more shots from the contax g 45mm testing it's 3dness wide open nothing particularly interesting but i'm liking the depth:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5406583905_e3af7de40b_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5407187228_fa6c609347_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5406579501_40fb1b113f_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/5406579435_b0689f8814_o.jpg
and for a change a high iso portrait:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5407191832_dac1d2673b_o.jpg
the forecast for chicago today includes a thundersnow blizzard, so maybe tomorrow i'll have some interesting scenery to shoot.



Feb 01, 2011 at 12:27 PM
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p.10 #9 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


sebboh - those are all wonderful shots. I must say, though, I love the bench shot a lot. It just feels like it is 'there'.


g45 and ZM50 are both very saliva enducing, but that Leica R elmarit 28 is also quite nice. The thing is, I already have pretty good CY28, and decent Nikkor 50, and CY50 1.4 waiting to be converted. For that matter, I should not be looking at these focal length.


Akul



Feb 01, 2011 at 08:19 PM
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p.10 #10 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


sebboh wrote:
some more shots from the contax g 45mm testing it's 3dness wide open nothing particularly interesting but i'm liking the depth:
the forecast for chicago today includes a thundersnow blizzard, so maybe tomorrow i'll have some interesting scenery to shoot.


I can see why that lens is so famous.

Did you shoot them raw or jpeg, much pp?



Feb 02, 2011 at 12:03 AM
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p.10 #11 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


uhoh7 wrote:
I can see why that lens is so famous.

Did you shoot them raw or jpeg, much pp?


i always shoot raw. the outdoor shots just have my custom curves settings applied in lightroom during import and then maybe a little tweaking of white and black point and that is probably it. the portrait has the same treatment with the addition of a big bump in exposure and recovery along with some noise reduction and maybe a saturation tweak. after i export the photos i downsize them for the web using a multistep sharpening/downsizing script modified from what denoir posted.

edit: i forgot, i add significant vignetting to nearly all my photos as well.

turns out you can't shoot much during a night blizzard - to much snow accumulates on the lens during exposure.
my NEX survived the poor weather conditions better than my iphone though.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/5409232079_36a16bea64_o.jpg

Edited on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:00 AM · View previous versions



Feb 02, 2011 at 12:29 AM
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p.10 #12 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Another brilliant set, sebboh!
I don't know why it is, but I seem to prefer the NEX's close-up up to mid-distance shots, rather than the ones at infinity. Considering the diversity of lenses used by the posters, I can't ascribe that to the lens, so it could be a "camera thing". Or maybe it is just on those pics that the crop factor is less of a drawback...



Feb 02, 2011 at 01:39 AM
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p.10 #13 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


philber wrote:
Another brilliant set, sebboh!
I don't know why it is, but I seem to prefer the NEX's close-up up to mid-distance shots, rather than the ones at infinity. Considering the diversity of lenses used by the posters, I can't ascribe that to the lens, so it could be a "camera thing". Or maybe it is just on those pics that the crop factor is less of a drawback...


thanks! as far as the NEX at infinity goes, this might just be me but i think that good pictures that should actually be focused at infinity are few and far between. i really only do such things when traveling to places that have distant mountains, shooting out plane windows, or testing a new lens at infinity (usually a waste of time given the amount of haze chicago has - anything at infinity will be blurry no matter how good the lens is). i shoot hyperfocally a fair bit, but that always compromises things at infinity a bit. another possible reason for your observation might be that all those adapted lenses focus past infinity on the NEX and people aren't getting infinity focus quite right.

in any event a quick search of my photostream reveals only one real shot that was focused at infinity with the NEX (and a rokkor 50/1.4):
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5195248465_e6ebda0545_b.jpg
a few near infinity shots that were posted in other threads:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5081/5284571555_f810b7f4d4_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5121/5195032733_9fe0e2379a_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1292/5181940547_87876389fe_b.jpg
and a test shot from when i first go the NEX towards a very hazy chicago with the canon FL 55/1.2 (there are actually 7 well defined BIFs in this picture if you look at it at 100%):
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/5126312179_cf0d02998c_o.jpg



Feb 02, 2011 at 02:34 AM
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p.10 #14 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


I'm sure it is just the particular shots you've seen. There are plenty of great aps-c shots at infinity in the world, and there shouldn't be anything specific to nex.


Feb 02, 2011 at 02:39 AM
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p.10 #15 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Thanks for the feed-back, Sebboh, douglas. I wasn't saying that "the NEX can't do infinity properly", which would be technical nonsense, but that I found it more appealing on other-than-infinity shots. Your examples show that this does not need to be so. I will now aim to see what is "wrong", if anything.


Feb 02, 2011 at 03:01 AM
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p.10 #16 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


i posted a test of my pen f lenses versus my contax g lenses along with the rokkor 45/2 and nikkor ltm 50/2 on the mirrorless thread: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/921941/8#9280195


Feb 03, 2011 at 02:12 AM
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p.10 #17 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/5415078479_ac3ffec9a6_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/5415078425_08cb3d8f77_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5415689004_d263f85bb3_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5256/5415689054_1ec6d14cfe_b.jpg

Kettle Bell Class

Nex-5, Nikon 50mm f/1.4, Kipon tilt adapter.



Feb 04, 2011 at 05:57 AM
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p.10 #18 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


uhoh7 - great shots, have you tried using the tilt adapter to extend dof for a landscape shot?

i was unable to go out the day after our big blizzard in chicago but i got a few shots 2 days after on my way to work. all these are with the contax g 45mm.
even in the frigid cold it is too hazy to get a decent shot of downtown.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5415375414_7e2cc35492_o.jpg
some benches and bikes covered in snow:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5415375556_531809cd5a_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5414766009_a20c123b46_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/5415375678_7f6c20c3c1_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5415375478_5bc6ce51ff_o.jpg

Edited on Mar 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM · View previous versions



Feb 04, 2011 at 11:58 AM
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p.10 #19 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


sebboh wrote:
uhoh7 - great shots, have you tried using the tilt adapter to extend dof for a landscape shot?

i was unable to go out the day after our big blizzard in chicago but i got a few shots 2 days after on my way to work. all these are with the contax g 45mm.
even in the frigid cold it is too hazy to get a decent shot of downtown.

You got some serious DOF on that first shot! What was your aperture?

Yes, I really want to try extreme DOF. To that end I have one of these on the way:

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/PC_Nikkor/index2.htm

Its 320 grams ( not wildly heavy), stops to 32, and is supposed to be a fine lens.

I will put it on the tilt adapter and see what I can do.

Love the snow covered benches and bike. How do you like the out of focus rendering on the contax 45?




Feb 04, 2011 at 12:21 PM
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p.10 #20 · Sony (APS-C) Images Thread


Wow, love that rendering of the 45/2. Too bad there is no FF NEX; I'd like the true 45mm FOV better than the odd 67.5mm equivalent that you get now.

I'd like to see more from the 28/2.8 -- I thought Phillipe showed some shots, but it seemed that they had a bit of smearing in the corners?



Feb 04, 2011 at 12:27 PM
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