Al B wrote:
Great shot...Im interested in this lens with the 6500. Curious did you
use the pop-up flash and which flash setting if you changed from defaut.
Thanks! This was actually handheld with ambient light only. No Flash. It was VERY dark in there. Seriously....WAY darker than the image would suggest. I'm really surprised I got it to focus!
I'm glad to have the 24mm for it's 35mm equivalent FOV. I will say that I think this particular lens is WAY overpriced...even on the used market. I paid $700 and really think the IQ is no better than the 300, maybe 400 dollar lenses out there. I'm also not seeing this "Zeiss pop" that people rave about. The colors are good, but not mid blowing. Maybe my opinion will change as we move into seasons of weather with more color. Lastly, it doesn't support all the AF functions of the a6500....1) AF drive speed settings can't be changed in video mode and the continuous AF is very slow; 2) The little "snow flakes", as Gary Fong calls them, don't show up in continuous AF tracking (not sure if that is affecting the tracking but bugs me cause I'm anal ;-) ).. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine lens, just overpriced. I really like the size. If money isn't an issue I'd try the Batis 25.
I'm also not seeing this "Zeiss pop" that people rave about. The colors are good, but not mid blowing. Maybe my opinion will change as we move into seasons of weather with more color. Lastly, it doesn't support all the AF functions of the a6500....1) AF drive speed settings can't be changed in video mode and the continuous AF is very slow; 2) The little "snow flakes", as Gary Fong calls them, don't show up in continuous AF tracking (not sure if that is affecting the tracking but bugs me cause I'm anal ;-) ).. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine lens, just overpriced. I really like the size. If money isn't an issue I'd try the Batis 25.
I find this quite concerning, I purchased a used 24mm Zony the day before I sold my a6300 so I didn't test it much, the a6500 is due to arrive on Tuesday. I was really hoping that this little lens was going to be THE ONE not having to pay FE GM price but getting comparable results as well as 35mm equiv... where does one turn to? I want all the features I paid for to work. Batis 25 as you have suggested, 24-70F2.8, Distagon 35 f1.4ZA?
I find this quite concerning, I purchased a used 24mm Zony the day before I sold my a6300 so I didn't test it much, the a6500 is due to arrive on Tuesday. I was really hoping that this little lens was going to be THE ONE not having to pay FE GM price but getting comparable results as well as 35mm equiv... where does one turn to? I want all the features I paid for to work. Batis 25 as you have suggested, 24-70F2.8, Distagon 35 f1.4ZA?
I Don't know?? I'm interested to hear your opinion. Maybe I'm expecting too much. I did just switch from "full frame" to "crop" only. Maybe my expectations/standards are just too high
I Don't know?? I'm interested to hear your opinion. Maybe I'm expecting too much. I did just switch from "full frame" to "crop" only. Maybe my expectations/standards are just too high
I can't find the web page but it did confirm that not all functions worked with all lenses, including the 24/1.8Z I will have to wait and see how it compares to the 18-105G I have once I receive the body. I really feel like at this point I am considering the 35/1.4 is what my one lens will be. I had the a7R and 55/1.8, what a stellar combo but I work at sea and wanted a faster AF and IBIS paired with a fast prime.
Here's a quick 4 shot vertical pano I grabbed quickly from the slopes this afternoon. Cropped in a bit. Again, Sony Zeiss 24. This one f/4. The portability of this simple set up is great!
Really nice, I am however feeling as though I might miss out on the extra functionality, although as you have stated the portability is really convenient as opposed to going to something like 35/1.4.
drpower wrote:
Really nice, I am however feeling as though I might miss out on the extra functionality, although as you have stated the portability is really convenient as opposed to going to something like 35/1.4.
As I become more familiar with the camera system I'm starting to better understand the differences between lenses. Contrary to my previous post complaining about loss of AF functionality with the 24 1.8 ZA, it actually supports nearly everything.
With stills it supports everything. This includes all drive mode options, focus mode options (except "automatic AF which I see no need for), and all focus area options including all "Lock-on" options which are nice for continuous tracking (includes center, expanded flexible spot S, M, L). DMF works which is really nice. "Eye focus" works.
The annoying part is video, which I don't do too much of aside from short clips here and there. Basically you loose the "Lock on AF: Expanded Flexible Spot, S,M,L" options. You still get "Lock-on Center" which is great for tracking but not as accurate as the others. What is a bigger deal to me not being able to change the continuous AF drive speeds which affect focus pull. It's only option is "normal" which I find to be pretty slow, almost impractical. As a result I have just been using MF with focus peaking which is easy and works well. The focus ring is nice and smooth on this lens. It's actually kinda fun.
What is interesting is that when using "Center Lock-on AF" with stills and changing the focus spot (i.e. selecting a new focus spot, maybe changing from near to far off) the focus drive speed is ripping fast. The same function in video mode is very slow. It would be great if that could be fixed with a firmware update but I doubt that will ever happen.
Lastly, as I mentioned before somewhere....and this is not a big deal at all, when using "Lock on" options for tracking, it only displays the focus box (center, S,M, or L). Within that box there can be any number of actual focus points being used/selected. With other lenses, such as the 50 1.8 OSS, the actual focus points light up in the display and appear kinda like little "snowflakes" as Gary Fong calls them. This is a minor difference that initially caused me to think the 24 didn't support certain functions but in reality is just a difference in display.
In the end if you can live with the loss of three different AF drive speed options in video and you like what you see with regards to IQ, I really think this is the only decent option for people shooting a6xxx bodies who really like and desire the 35mm FOV. The wider 16mm or 20mm options are too slow for my taste (f/2.8) and the 28mm option too long (equivalent to 42mm on croppers). I stand behind my opinion that it is a WAY overpriced lens. I would never consider paying $1000+ for this glass. I begrudgingly coughed up 700 bones so that I could get a lens within the FOV I wanted. Return period is over in a few weeks. For now I'll keep it.
Kind of a longwinded post having nothing to do with the a6500 but I felt compelled to clarify a few things for anyone interested in this lens. I think I have it figured out now. Hope this helps.
To keep it on topic here's a selfie this morning with the a6500 + 24 1.8 ZA @ f/2.8
Another example with the 24 ZA. This one @ f/2. Informal portrait with window light only. The full res file actually looks better on my monitor than the flickr rendering. That said, I'm pretty happy with the colors and sharpness of this lens. I think it's a keeper....for now ;-)
A6500 & Zeiss T12. I do feel like I'm getting more consistently sharp shots with the IBIS on these unstabilized lenses.
Cool shots!
Regarding IBIS....What SS's should I hope for? Let's say I'm shooting with a 50mm lens. First, does the same rule of thumb apply to crop sensor cameras, i.e. to be safe shoot no slower than the reciprocal, in this case 1/50. Or should we correct for crop factor, i.e. 1/50 ---> 1/80. Second, how slow should I hope to go if rule would be shoot no slower than 1/50 with a 50mm lens. I guess that's really 2 questions. What are peoples' thoughts?
Regarding IBIS....What SS's should I hope for? Let's say I'm shooting with a 50mm lens. First, does the same rule of thumb apply to crop sensor cameras, i.e. to be safe shoot no slower than the reciprocal, in this case 1/50. Or should we correct for crop factor, i.e. 1/50 ---> 1/80. Second, how slow should I hope to go if rule would be shoot no slower than 1/50 with a 50mm lens. I guess that's really 2 questions. What are peoples' thoughts?
Thanks : ) I haven't experimented enough to answer your questions, but those two were both shot handheld at f/8, ISO 100, and 1/40 & 1/20 respectively.
With the sun going down and the light getting low, I don't think I would've been able to use these settings on my A6300 handheld.
