I don't know if it will help with portrait more any more than with landscape mode. But I have to say that I am liking the Nexviewer thingy. I like bringing my eye up to the camera and I find I can focus faster and more accurately than with just the LCD. For the price, it is easily worth it for me.
Both the Nokton 35/1.2 and Summilux 35 are outstanding, from want I've seen, ulrikft2. It's just a matter of whether size or cost is an issue.
For me, the point of NEX was to be considerably smaller than my DSLR gear, so the size difference is worth giving up a stop or two. If size isn't as much of an issue, I'd get the Nokton 35/1.2 (I may still buy one at some point, but I'm waiting to see the new version.)
rji2goleez wrote:
I don't know if it will help with portrait more any more than with landscape mode. But I have to say that I am liking the Nexviewer thingy. I like bringing my eye up to the camera and I find I can focus faster and more accurately than with just the LCD. For the price, it is easily worth it for me.
I agree. For less than $50, it makes the NEX feel like your using a totally different camera - one much easier, quicker and more versatile to use. It really does replace an EVF. If Sony were to make the LCD even higher resolution - say 3MP instead of 1 - it would even be better.
douglasf13 wrote:
Both the Nokton 35/1.2 and Summilux 35 are outstanding, from want I've seen, ulrikft2. It's just a matter of whether size or cost is an issue.
For me, the point of NEX was to be considerably smaller than my DSLR gear, so the size difference is worth giving up a stop or two. If size isn't as much of an issue, I'd get the Nokton 35/1.2 (I may still buy one at some point, but I'm waiting to see the new version.)
The Nokton 35 1.2 would look like a Bazuka on the front of the NEX! It's HUGE. I was a little surprised to read the performance evaluation by Put's regarding this Nokton. He does not seem to be too impressed with it's performance compared to some of the other Voigtlander's.
"Compared to the Voigtlander 1.7/35 and the Summicron 2/35 asph, the performance at all apertures is not at the same level."
ulrikft2 wrote:
So, to sum it up: I won't get a 35mm for my nex that will give me similar results to my sigmalux 50 1.4?
I think the Nokton 1.2/35 is not far from the sigmalux: center sharpness is probably better on the Nokton, out-of-center sharpness probably better on the Sigma and the bokeh is very smooth on both. You could try to get the Nokton 35 V1 used, but this is not easy. Or you could wait until V2 is released, but this could be end of the year due to the earthquake.
An alternative are the Leica Summilux 35 lenses, but they are expensive.
I think that's it in 35mm.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The Nokton 35 1.2 would look like a Bazuka on the front of the NEX! It's HUGE. I was a little surprised to read the performance evaluation by Put's regarding this Nokton. He does not seem to be too impressed with it's performance compared to some of the other Voigtlander's.
"Compared to the Voigtlander 1.7/35 and the Summicron 2/35 asph, the performance at all apertures is not at the same level."
In Reid's test the Nokton was not far from the Summilux Asph. I think with Voigtländer lenses there is probably some sample variation involved. The Nokton I tested was very sharp in the center at f/1.2 (at least a good as the Leica Summilux 50 Asph or the Canon 85L) but only in the center.
ulrikft2 wrote:
So, to sum it up: I won't get a 35mm for my nex that will give me similar results to my sigmalux 50 1.4?
the sigmalux is a unique lens, you'll probably get closest with the cv 35/1.2. the cv 35/1.4 will probably give you similar results to what you would get using your nikkor 35/1.4 AIS on a 1.5x crop, but with a bit more CA. for the types of shots your looking for i really think the 35/1.2 is the way to go. the pen f 42/1.2 would be nearly as good and significantly smaller, but i imagine finding one would be difficult.
I have thought about getting the 35/1.2 even though it is a bit large ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellownurbs/5120050578/lightbox/ sized about as the kit zoom?), but I would want the new one and I'm not sure if I want to wait to the end of the year.
The 35mm f1.2 is not any larger than the Sony 18-55. Its big for a rangefinger lens, but really doesn't even weight anymore than the Leica Lux's. Its about 1lb.
Its not that big or heavy and its also the best performing 35mm I've used. Again, full sized images with corner crops and wide open performance images posted in this very thread. Its better than the ZM35 Biogon C, which in itself is a great lens. One simply might not want to carry the larger lens though for daytime shooting.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The Nokton 35 1.2 would look like a Bazuka on the front of the NEX! It's HUGE. I was a little surprised to read the performance evaluation by Put's regarding this Nokton. He does not seem to be too impressed with it's performance compared to some of the other Voigtlander's.
"Compared to the Voigtlander 1.7/35 and the Summicron 2/35 asph, the performance at all apertures is not at the same level."
ulrikft2 wrote:
I have thought about getting the 35/1.2 even though it is a bit large ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/yellownurbs/5120050578/lightbox/ sized about as the kit zoom?), but I would want the new one and I'm not sure if I want to wait to the end of the year.
Tough life..
The kit les is a little shorter 2.3" vs 3" and the weight is 6.9 oz vs 1.1 pounds! I use the kit lens all the time but frankly I prefer something shorter on the NEX as far as length goes.
millsart wrote:
A bazooka Come on now and be realistic
The 35mm f1.2 is not any larger than the Sony 18-55. Its big for a rangefinger lens, but really doesn't even weight anymore than the Leica Lux's. Its about 1lb.
Its not that big or heavy and its also the best performing 35mm I've used. Again, full sized images with corner crops and wide open performance images posted in this very thread. Its better than the ZM35 Biogon C, which in itself is a great lens. One simply might not want to carry the larger lens though for daytime shooting.
I still think its pretty much right on par with the size of the kit lens. Weights more of course but its also F1.2 and perfectly manageable on camera. The size of the focus ring and smooth MF feel are the best of any rangefinder lenses I've ever owned, including Leica
Plus performance like this across the entire frame is something the kit lens is not going to come close to achieving. 35mm f1.2 is a unique blend of not only sharp wide open performance but also excellent stopped down performance.
For $39 (w/ adapter and shipping even) the 35mm f1.7 CCTV lens is a tough one to beat for bang for the buck as well. Its surprisingly sharp in the center and I actually find its very pronounced falloff gives it a unique look. Its certainly not a good all around lens but for the money and its distinctive look I think its a must have for the NEX
Just a couple of snaps from a walk last night wide open and stopped down a little
millsart wrote:
I still think its pretty much right on par with the size of the kit lens. Weights more of course but its also F1.2 and perfectly manageable on camera. The size of the focus ring and smooth MF feel are the best of any rangefinder lenses I've ever owned, including Leica
millsart wrote:
Plus performance like this across the entire frame is something the kit lens is not going to come close to achieving. 35mm f1.2 is a unique blend of not only sharp wide open performance but also excellent stopped down performance.
My sample of the kit lens will perform at or close to this level at 5.6 -8 at the 35mm setting. No Problem. I'm happy to post samples if you need proof!
millsart wrote:
I still think its pretty much right on par with the size of the kit lens. Weights more of course but its also F1.2 and perfectly manageable on camera. The size of the focus ring and smooth MF feel are the best of any rangefinder lenses I've ever owned, including Leica
Your camera angle really make the visual comparison inaccurate by making the NEX with the kit zoom appear larger than in reality it is compared to the Nokton. Just look at the size difference of the play button on the top of the NEX's to see this. Looks like you took this with a wide angle lens with the body + kit zoom closer to the camera.
I think that is an optical illusion because the play button is darker, downloaded and checked in PS now, and there is not really a big size difference on the play buttons, even at 200% the size looks similar.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
My sample of the kit lens will perform at or close to this level at 5.6 -8 at the 35mm setting. No Problem. I'm happy to post samples if you need proof!
I would love to see your 18-55 edge samples at f8 that are that sharp or even close. Mine sue isn't.
You must have one amazing kit lens because I've had 3 of them and while all decent, they are nothing remotely close to that type of performance at the edges.
So yes, I would love to see the one and only copy of the 18-55 thats got the edge to edge performance to rival a VC 35 1.2 or a ZM 35 f2.8 C, because darn near everyone complains about how lacking they feel the kit lens is.
If the kit lens can get that type of performance for landscape shooting, why are the rest of us wasting tons of money on all this Contax, Zeiss, Voigtlander, Leica etc glass right ??
Come on now and be realistic
