tanglefoot47 wrote:
And I wonder if the Oita plant only sends to Countries other than the US?
I shouldn't imagine so.
More probable that the first batches of MkII's went to the US and came from Utsunomiya but the newest batch were assembled at Oita and happened to go to Europe.
Perhaps the MkII's with date codes will be collectors items in the future?
If so you all in the US should stop using yours now!
Lars Johnsson wrote:
Date codes are not irrelevant to Canon. And it's not seriel numbers or date codes. All of the five Canon lenses that I have bought this year have date codes. And also the camera that I bought
So?
All you have bought so far were produced before the new system came on stream for the lenses you have bought - same for the camera.
Only time will tell as the new and updated lenses come to market.
It is obvious that both systems will co-exist until all the old stocks are put into circulation and sold by retailers.
With the date codes having reached the end of the alphabet for the second time perhaps the date code system is simply due for an update.
Lars Johnsson wrote:
It's not about "true value" of the date code. It doesn't matter what month/year he has on it.
But I wouldn't like to buy a new lens in a shop without any date code......when all my friends exactly the same lenses had date code's
Has everything to do with the perceived added value of a date code. The perception is 'ooooo, it's newer so I want that one over that older one of the same exact thing'...while spending more money for it. No different than mid year vehicles with no changes costing more.
tanglefoot47 wrote:
Unless your selling it because most people want the newest date code and will pay more for a newer date code just the way it is.
You are kind of wrong about spoil over the time these lenses don't last forever and the older the lens most likely the more it was used.
A date code is not at all an indicator of use. A lot of times a sell is due to not using the item much to begin with (eg, sitting on the shelf on in the bag).
Hey, I'm not here to try to convince the world that some things just don't matter much. Perception drives people to do many things that are only valuable in the mind. That's why advertisers are able to do what they do. Most consumers don't read between the lines or look at what they're actually buying.
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cordellwillis wrote:
Has everything to do with the perceived added value of a date code. The perception is 'ooooo, it's newer so I want that one over that older one of the same exact thing'...while spending more money for it. No different than mid year vehicles with no changes costing more.
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As often as it is ""'ooooo, it's newer so I want that one over that older one of the same exact thing'...while spending more money for it.
it's "'ooooo, it's older so I want that one over that newer one of the same exact thing'...while spending less money for it.
Is there a code that tells you how many times the lens was used in the rain, how many times it was dropped, how many times it was taken from a cold air conditioned room to the humid outdoors, and whether it was used by a smoker?
No. And we don't need such a code because we have a date code.
And the earliest copies of the 24-105L are the most valuable because they generate a special kind of flare you can't get any other way.
What if I have a lens I don't want to sell, but it happens to have an extremely valuable date code? Can I sell the code to somebody else who wants to sell their copy of the lens but doesn't have a good code, with payment in cash plus their code?
cordellwillis wrote:
Has everything to do with the perceived added value of a date code. The perception is 'ooooo, it's newer so I want that one over that older one of the same exact thing'...while spending more money for it. No different than mid year vehicles with no changes costing more.
A date code is not at all an indicator of use. A lot of times a sell is due to not using the item much to begin with (eg, sitting on the shelf on in the bag).
Hey, I'm not here to try to convince the world that some things just don't matter much. Perception drives people to do many things that are only valuable in the mind. That's why advertisers are able to do what they do. Most consumers don't read between the lines or look at what they're actually buying....Show more →
I have bought older lenses that were spotless and lost money selling them again because it did have an older date code But I know exactly what your saying but a newer date code is still a better lens to sell
tanglefoot47 wrote:
I have bought older lenses that were spotless and lost money selling them again because it did have an older date code But I know exactly what your saying but a newer date code is still a better lens to sell
That's OK if your hobby is making money buying and selling lenses.
There are those of us who buy lenses to actually use...............resale value isn't factored into the equation at all, but purchase price may have to be.
PaulB wrote:
That's OK if your hobby is making money buying and selling lenses.
There are those of us who buy lenses to actually use...............resale value isn't factored into the equation at all, but purchase price may have to be.
Well folks, if anyone is still following this thread, Canon CPS finally answered my query as to why there was no date code on the back of my new 70-200 2.8 IS II.
Here's a cut and paste of the answer as why there is no code, and whether or not the missing date indicates it had been serviced:
Dear Mr. Tylko Thank you for your E-mail inquiry. The lens with the serial # 70300xxxxx (EF70-200/2.8LISIIUSM), is a new lens. It was purchased by the dealer on oct 26th 2010. Should you require further assistance, please feel free to email us or visit our customer support website at http://www.canon.ca
Well, at least it looks like it was a new lens after all
I guess we won't know about the date code business until more people will bought some of these optical marvels!
Do the new date codes only come in 100's? I saw two poster that have UYO300 (newseum and jcolwell) and one that is UYO400 (roboticspro) What is the likelihood that two poster have the exact series or number?.......sorry for my ignorance. I just own older canon L glass (even have a UB code 300 2.8) older than my students....
I assume that many lenses can be produced with the same date code. It's not a precise date-time stamp to document the "moment of birth". OTOH, we're in trouble if they also have the same serial number.
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