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Archive 2010 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.

  
 
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p.6 #1 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.


I find that, when I shoot outside (cityscape/landscape), I usually set my aperture at f:5.6, which is IMHO where it is at its best, focus to infinity and then pull back just a bit, and, unless I am shooting at less than 3m, I am in point-and-shoot mode (sharpness from 3m to infinity). Very similar to what Luka does except for the aperture, where I get even more DOF due to my stopping down.
Of course that is not a "Zeiss" trick, theoretical DOF being lens-brand-and type-independent, but that mitigates very much the disadvantange of not having AF.



Oct 04, 2010 at 07:23 AM
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p.6 #2 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.


alundeb wrote:
Peter, are you trying to convince yourself that you don't need an UWA prime? How about the collector's instinct?

One thing not yet mentioned about the ZE 21, it has 82 mm filter threads, limiting the selection of filters.


Alundeb, if I have to invent a use for a high quality lens, I'll do so.
Hell, I have shot BIF and butterflies and flowers and such with 15mm FE.
82 mm filters are not a problem for those of us who own 16-35L MkII already....we know what's out there.



Oct 04, 2010 at 07:23 AM
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p.6 #3 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.


Sir_Loin wrote:
. I can always boost contrast a bit in PP if it needs it.


Good luck
People have already tried on those examples to make the Canon image match the Zeiss, but without much success.

The contrast difference is not like a global contrast adjustment, and the color difference is neither like WB nor like saturation adjustments.



Oct 04, 2010 at 07:28 AM
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p.6 #4 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.


denoir wrote:
Wickerprints, I've used them side by side and done a couple of test comparison shots. Judge for yourself.

Open the images in separate tabs and flip between them:

f/2.8
24L II @ f/2.8
21 Distagon @ f/2.8

f/5.6
24L II @ f/5.6
21 Distagon @ f/5.6

(shot from tripod, shutter release, live view focus, developed with ACR, identical settings, resized the same way).


pretty surprising since the 24 1.4 II is pretty contrasty and colorful itself
and yet I can easily see a difference there



Oct 04, 2010 at 04:48 PM
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p.6 #5 · Zeiss 21 f/2.8 ZE vs. 24L II, etc.


wickerprints wrote:
And people who make vague statements about "rendering" and "Zeiss look" and "flatness" and don't post objective, accurate, side-by-side comparisons under identical shooting conditions are (to put it nicely) saying nothing meaningful.

Test charts exist for a good reason--when done properly, they are objective. So what kind of credibility are we to put in such claims like "Zeiss look?"


Thank god you're saying only meaningful things.


Clearly you just love canon and never used the zeiss, so it's impossible to say/do anything that will change your opinion.
You talk like I'm a huge zeiss fanboy, but I just wanted to give my
objective opinion after owning one of canons best wideangles too (that ts-e24II).
I was sceptical too before I made the switch you know.

Test charts show sharpness, so what? There's so much more to a lens than just sharpness.
Why is it that people often only pay attention to technical details instead of the general look of a photo?




Oct 05, 2010 at 06:14 AM
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