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Archive 2010Kodak SLR Image Thread
p.3 #1Kodak SLR Image Thread
Paul Yi wrote:
I am absolutely stunned by the detail and colors this camera brings out .... Also, the metering and as well as DR is just way better than my 5D MkII....
Hi Paul. I see you finally found a Kodak SLR/c and that it's serving you well. Congrats.
I can't agree, though, that the SLR/c metering and DR is "way better" than the 5D Mark II.
Having owned both (I sold my SLR/c a couple of years ago and still own the 5D II), I can say for sure that, in the right hands, the Kodak is a great camera, has excellent color rendering and accuracy, has very good DR, provides a very high level of detail (thanks in part to a lack of AA filter), etc., etc., etc.....
... But only in good-to-excellent light and only at ISO 100-400. Beyond ISO 400, its DR begins to go downhill pretty rapidly as does its color accuracy. From ISO 640 on, it is no match for the 5D II and the vast majority of current high end DSLRs. Detail gets lost, DR is reduced pretty dramatically, colors get a bit washed out and noise blotches are all over the place.
In other words, at low ISOs, it's a superb camera in many ways. But it has nowhere near the versatility and adaptability of the 5D II. These Kodaks were really designed for studio use for the most part, which is why they can (and do) suffer from unpredictable color shifts when used outdoors in certain situations and environments.
Anyway ... enjoy it. I certainly enjoyed mine. But there came that day when I wanted something more flexible and adaptable to a wide variety of shooting conditions. Here's one of my favorite SLR/c shots along with a 100% crop of same:
http://www.pbase.com/image/65305889/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/65305932/original.jpg
- Steve
I am absolutely stunned by the detail and colors this camera brings out .... Also, the metering and as well as DR is just way better than my 5D MkII....
Hi Paul. I see you finally found a Kodak SLR/c and that it's serving you well. Congrats.
I can't agree, though, that the SLR/c metering and DR is "way better" than the 5D Mark II.
Having owned both (I sold my SLR/c a couple of years ago and still own the 5D II), I can say for sure that, in the right hands, the Kodak is a great camera, has excellent color rendering and accuracy, has very good DR, provides a very high level of detail (thanks in part to a lack of AA filter), etc., etc., etc.....
... But only in good-to-excellent light and only at ISO 100-400. Beyond ISO 400, its DR begins to go downhill pretty rapidly as does its color accuracy. From ISO 640 on, it is no match for the 5D II and the vast majority of current high end DSLRs. Detail gets lost, DR is reduced pretty dramatically, colors get a bit washed out and noise blotches are all over the place.
In other words, at low ISOs, it's a superb camera in many ways. But it has nowhere near the versatility and adaptability of the 5D II. These Kodaks were really designed for studio use for the most part, which is why they can (and do) suffer from unpredictable color shifts when used outdoors in certain situations and environments.
Anyway ... enjoy it. I certainly enjoyed mine. But there came that day when I wanted something more flexible and adaptable to a wide variety of shooting conditions. Here's one of my favorite SLR/c shots along with a 100% crop of same:
http://www.pbase.com/image/65305889/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/65305932/original.jpg
- Steve
Apr 19, 2010 at 05:44 PM
p.3 #2Kodak SLR Image Thread
Is it just me or does Jarenas's shots look pixilated? I think something went wrong when he uploaded to the web. The edges of the flowers have jagged edges, not smooth.
Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Apr 19, 2010 at 06:45 PM
p.3 #3Kodak SLR Image Thread
As someone else mentioned, these colors definitely remind me of the M8.2 and the 1D. I miss that alot about those cameras. My 5D, while nice, doesn't seem to have it like those did.
And I told myself I would stay away from this thread.
And I told myself I would stay away from this thread.
Apr 19, 2010 at 06:54 PM
p.3 #4Kodak SLR Image Thread
wayne seltzer wrote:
...... Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Thanks. It was a great copy of the 17-40. Never should have sold it.
- Steve
...... Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Thanks. It was a great copy of the 17-40. Never should have sold it.
- Steve
Apr 19, 2010 at 07:16 PM
p.3 #5Kodak SLR Image Thread
wayne seltzer wrote:
Is it just me or does Jarenas's shots look pixilated? I think something went wrong when he uploaded to the web. The edges of the flowers have jagged edges, not smooth.
Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Thanks for pointing that out. This is only my 2nd attempt to upload images. Next time I'll choose a higher res setting. Thanks.
Is it just me or does Jarenas's shots look pixilated? I think something went wrong when he uploaded to the web. The edges of the flowers have jagged edges, not smooth.
Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
Thanks for pointing that out. This is only my 2nd attempt to upload images. Next time I'll choose a higher res setting. Thanks.
Apr 19, 2010 at 07:27 PM
p.3 #6Kodak SLR Image Thread
jarenas wrote:
Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?Thanks for pointing that out. This is only my 2nd attempt to upload images. Next time I'll choose a higher res setting. Thanks.
No worries, glad to help.
I like the sharpness and color of that last shot of yours.
Looks like it was worth the effort and risk.
wayne seltzer wrote
Is it just me or does Jarenas's shots look pixilated? I think something went wrong when he uploaded to the web. The edges of the flowers have jagged edges, not smooth.Veroman, nice Big Sur coastline/Bixby bridge shot! What lens was that shot with?
No worries, glad to help.
I like the sharpness and color of that last shot of yours.
Looks like it was worth the effort and risk.
Apr 19, 2010 at 08:30 PM
p.3 #7Kodak SLR Image Thread
Query; How does the SLR/c or n fair with long exposures?
Apr 19, 2010 at 09:56 PM
p.3 #8Kodak SLR Image Thread
veroman,
Thanks for sharing your experience with this body.Helps me to evaluate picking one up or not.
-Jim
Thanks for sharing your experience with this body.Helps me to evaluate picking one up or not.
-Jim
Apr 20, 2010 at 05:54 AM
p.3 #9Kodak SLR Image Thread
Jim Schemel wrote:
veroman,
Thanks for sharing your experience with this body.Helps me to evaluate picking one up or not.
-Jim
You're welcome Jim.
Reading over my post, it seems to me I may have made the camera sound worse than it really is.
We all have different standards and tolerances for things like noise, color shifts, DR and the like. I think the SLR/c (and I guess the SLR/n ... although I have no experience with that variation) is a camera worth trying, especially at today's prices.
I've seen them go for $750 or so in really good condition and with low shutter count. Even at $1,000, there aren't too many cameras that can come close to the SLR/c's performance at low ISOs ... although my continuing preference for a low ISO camera is the D2x. In fact, I'd take the SLR/c over a Leica M8/M8.2 or Sigma SD9/10/14, the other two cameras without AA filters.
- Steve
veroman,
Thanks for sharing your experience with this body.Helps me to evaluate picking one up or not.
-Jim
You're welcome Jim.
Reading over my post, it seems to me I may have made the camera sound worse than it really is.
We all have different standards and tolerances for things like noise, color shifts, DR and the like. I think the SLR/c (and I guess the SLR/n ... although I have no experience with that variation) is a camera worth trying, especially at today's prices.
I've seen them go for $750 or so in really good condition and with low shutter count. Even at $1,000, there aren't too many cameras that can come close to the SLR/c's performance at low ISOs ... although my continuing preference for a low ISO camera is the D2x. In fact, I'd take the SLR/c over a Leica M8/M8.2 or Sigma SD9/10/14, the other two cameras without AA filters.
- Steve
Apr 20, 2010 at 10:29 AM
p.3 #10Kodak SLR Image Thread
Paul Yi wrote:
I don't know...I think my 5D MkII is going to have a long vacation.... Taken with C/Y Planar 100 with no PP at all, on the way to work this morning.
They're nice shots, Paul. But they're not particularly challenging to the camera. Also, the lack of an AA filter does have its advantages. There's also some downside to no filter ... which will rear its ugly head from time to time.
In any event, here are some 5D II shots that compare pretty well to the Kodak and might even have presented a bit of a challenge to that camera ... or should I say "would have ...."
Regards,
Steve
http://www.pbase.com/image/119675641/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/119229312/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/119195940/original.jpg
I don't know...I think my 5D MkII is going to have a long vacation....
Taken with C/Y Planar 100 with no PP at all, on the way to work this morning. They're nice shots, Paul. But they're not particularly challenging to the camera. Also, the lack of an AA filter does have its advantages. There's also some downside to no filter ... which will rear its ugly head from time to time.
In any event, here are some 5D II shots that compare pretty well to the Kodak and might even have presented a bit of a challenge to that camera ... or should I say "would have ...."
Regards,
Steve
http://www.pbase.com/image/119675641/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/119229312/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/119195940/original.jpg
Apr 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
p.3 #11Kodak SLR Image Thread
Hey....that lake in the second shot looks very familiar...
Was that taken at the nature center at Closter, NJ?
If so, I go there pretty often to take pictures....
Was that taken at the nature center at Closter, NJ?
If so, I go there pretty often to take pictures....
Apr 20, 2010 at 02:11 PM
p.3 #12Kodak SLR Image Thread
Paul Yi wrote:
Hey....that lake in the second shot looks very familiar...
Was that taken at the nature center at Closter, NJ?
If so, I go there pretty often to take pictures....
It was shot at the McFaul Environmental Center in Wyckoff. But if it resembles a nature center in Closter, then that sounds like a great place to shoot. I'll give it a try myself ...
- Steve
Hey....that lake in the second shot looks very familiar...
Was that taken at the nature center at Closter, NJ?
If so, I go there pretty often to take pictures....
It was shot at the McFaul Environmental Center in Wyckoff. But if it resembles a nature center in Closter, then that sounds like a great place to shoot. I'll give it a try myself ...
- Steve
Apr 20, 2010 at 03:01 PM
p.3 #13Kodak SLR Image Thread
Those last three are great Paul
Now I'm starting to get interested too
Now I'm starting to get interested too
Apr 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM
p.3 #14Kodak SLR Image Thread
Thanks....
For people like me, who knows practically nothing about post processing, Kodak DSLR is great......
Maybe it's a matter of taste, but I really like the colors from it.
For people like me, who knows practically nothing about post processing, Kodak DSLR is great......
Maybe it's a matter of taste, but I really like the colors from it.
Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM
p.3 #15Kodak SLR Image Thread
I love my Kodak SLR/C camera too. I also like the software that comes with it: Photodesk. If you have Photodesk, make sure and go to Kodak web site to get the Custom Looks Addon software for it (free).
Apr 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM
p.3 #16Kodak SLR Image Thread
I did already.... Thanks though.
BTW, Do you know where I can find a manual for that program online?
I keep searching for it, but with no luck yet...
Thanks though.BTW, Do you know where I can find a manual for that program online?
I keep searching for it, but with no luck yet...
Apr 21, 2010 at 01:37 PM
p.3 #17Kodak SLR Image Thread
Paul Yi wrote:
Thanks.... For people like me, who knows practically nothing about post processing, Kodak DSLR is great......
Interesting you should say that, Paul. I've always thought the SLR/c needed lots and lots of post-processing work to get the best out of the RAW files ... more than most cameras, anyway. Oh well...
- Steve
Thanks....
For people like me, who knows practically nothing about post processing, Kodak DSLR is great...... Interesting you should say that, Paul. I've always thought the SLR/c needed lots and lots of post-processing work to get the best out of the RAW files ... more than most cameras, anyway. Oh well...
- Steve
Apr 21, 2010 at 02:31 PM
p.3 #18Kodak SLR Image Thread
Which software did you use to convert the Raw file?
I've used Photo Desk, and practically all of my pictures were done with just one click.
Save as JPEG..... and done.
I've used Photo Desk, and practically all of my pictures were done with just one click.
Save as JPEG..... and done.
Apr 21, 2010 at 03:09 PM
p.3 #19Kodak SLR Image Thread
Paul,
Any chance that you could post two comparison shots with the same lens, one on the 5d2 and one on the SLR/C?
Any chance that you could post two comparison shots with the same lens, one on the 5d2 and one on the SLR/C?
Apr 21, 2010 at 05:04 PM
p.3 #20Kodak SLR Image Thread
I will try to do that tomorrow morning.
However, I won't be using tripod.... I have one that is way too bulky to carry around.
I hope it's sunny tomorrow though, because SLR/c excels in good daylight setting.....
However, I won't be using tripod.... I have one that is way too bulky to carry around.
I hope it's sunny tomorrow though, because SLR/c excels in good daylight setting.....
Apr 21, 2010 at 05:21 PM