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p.1 #1 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Pics on page 3 from my first AIS or MF lens - I'm stoked!
For whatever reason I've got this bug to hunt down AI-S (or just AI) lenses for my incoming D700. I like manual focusing, for whatever reason, and having smooth MF action is awesome.

From my limited reading, I gather the 105mm f/1.8 or f/2.5 (I'd prefer the 1.8) are great, as are the 85mm f/1.4 and f/2.

Right now, I'm trying to bargain into a 105mm f/1.8, but the seller may be wanting more than I'm willing to pay. I'm also strongly considering the 85mm f/2 - the f/1.4 is just too expensive for me - I'd frankly rather have an in-service AF-D for the prices they're commanding.


Are there any others I'm missing? I've got an incoming 16-35mm f/4 VR, so I'm not too sure if I'll be interested in wide angle primes, but are there maybe some interesting 1:1 macros I could land my hands on for fairly cheap, etc?

Also, are there any significant differences between the AI and AI-S versions of the 105 and 85, specifically? I was reading there may have been some multicoat changes between AI and AI-S, but I couldn't find specifics.

Any suggestions would be great, thanks!




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Mar 16, 2010 at 11:04 AM
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p.1 #2 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


No, the 2.5 is better than the 1.8. Go for that one instead. PM panos.v for his experiences (maybe he will post here).

I agree with you on the 85/1.4 AFD instead of the AIS.

The 55/3.5 or 55/2.8 AIS Micro-Nikkors are also fantastic gems.



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM
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p.1 #3 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Stick with the 105/2.5. Seemingly every copy is a great one. The 105/1.8 is both more expensive and far more mixed in terms of results and sample variation.

The 180/2.8 ED is great as well.



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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p.1 #4 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


50mm f/1.2
28mm f/2.8
20mm f/2.8



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM
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p.1 #5 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Awesome advise, thanks! I kept reading the 105mm f/2.5 being "magical" from nikon, so I figured the f/1.8 would be even better!

I guess I should have suspected something when I found KR's blurb about his f/1.8 being slightly better and to just forget the f/2.5 >,<


Thanks for the other lens suggestions - I'll be doing more research tonight



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM
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p.1 #6 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


20 3.5
28 2.8 with 8 elements and the 0.2m min focus distance (not the 0.3m)

the 105 2.5 is what joe mac shot the Afghan girl with the eyes NG cover with.



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM
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p.1 #7 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


I have the 85 2 and like it very much, but if you held a poll the responses on it would probably range from 'below average' to 'very good' with few calling it a gem. Which isn't to discourage you... I wouldn't part with mine, partly sentimental reasons you know.

+1 on the 55 3.5.

+1 on the 50 1.2.



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:32 AM
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p.1 #8 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


You can replicate Steve McCurry's (who is this Joe Mac you refer to?) setup for that shot, but not for much longer. FM2n, 105/2.5 and Kodachrome.


Mar 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM
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p.1 #9 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Another vote for the 105/2.5 -- it's a great lens. I prefer the more compact size and better handling over the f/1.8, and it's exceptional from wide open.

One of the 85s to watch for is a late non-AI (K series, I think they were called) 85/1.8. Cosmetically, these late versions look like an AI, and many of them got factory AI conversions, so you'd think it was a stock AI lens. It was discontinued and replaced by the 85/2. Both are good, but the 85/1.8 is better. I sold mine when I bought the 85/1.4 AF-D, but I took many photos with it, and preferred it to the 85/1.8 AF.

The close-focusing 28/2.8 AIS is good, too. Not at its best at infinity, but still a very nice lens.



Mar 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM
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p.1 #10 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


The 105 2.5 is legendary. Get that one, you won't regret it. It's the best 105 from Nikon, according to Thom Hogan the man himself.


Mar 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM
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p.1 #11 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


+1 for the 28mm 2.8 AIS.
+1 on 105 2.5 AIS.
+1 on the 55mm 2.8 Micro.

75-150mm 3.5 Series E. great lens, sharp sharp sharp, and I found mine for $50.
50mm Series E 1.8 - not the best optical quality, but the pancake quality makes it one of the most fun lenses to use (for me at least). It practically disappears on the D700. KEH has BGN listed for around 30-40.
200mm f4 AI.



Mar 16, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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p.1 #12 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


the amazing thing is the 105 2.5 and 55 3.5 are still really cheap, while the 50 1.2 less so. Of course, I covet the 1.2.


Mar 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #13 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Oh yeah, I forgot the 50 1.2. You can get the AIS version for around 400 used.


Mar 16, 2010 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #14 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


20mm 3.5
28mm 3.5
50mm 1.8 E
55mm 3.5
105mm 2.5

Win/



Mar 16, 2010 at 01:11 PM
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p.1 #15 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?



i had experience with these, and they are all cheap and great/legendary

24mm 2.8 ais
28mm 2.8 ais
55mm 2.8 ais
85mm f2 ais
105mm 2.5 (this and 85mm 1.4 best ever)

And apparently also the 75-150mm E ais, which i should receive in a day or two



Mar 16, 2010 at 01:26 PM
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p.1 #16 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


for 85mm have you considered the samyang 85 f/1.4? Dirt cheap and great quality.


Mar 16, 2010 at 01:30 PM
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p.1 #17 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


No one else has mentioned the 180/2.8? I'm surprised.


Mar 16, 2010 at 01:30 PM
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p.1 #18 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


I've got the 85 f2... It's alright, but the bokeh can be down right atrocious sometimes. Other times its great. Fairly sharp, same size as the 35 f2 (i.e. compact), but it does flare something wicked without a hood. 105 f2.5 AIS is a much better lens IMHO. I bring the 85 f2 for lowlight and women's portraits. The 105 is too sharp, even wide open.


Mar 16, 2010 at 01:41 PM
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p.1 #19 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


Other favorites in the MF realm

90mm f2.5 tamron

24mm f2.5 tamron

55 f3.5
35 f2
135 f3.5
135 f2
70-150 f3.5 e series



Mar 16, 2010 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #20 · Nikon AIS Manual Lenses - cheap gems?


135 f2?
Really?
Hmm, may have to re-test mine on FF. Loved it on film. Forgot about it until now.



Mar 16, 2010 at 02:03 PM
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