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chippy_jersey
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Breitling65 wrote:
Waiting for Fedex mk IV delivery today!!! )


Great, so are you going to go out and take some pics with it, instead of telling us that you're getting one all the time?

Sorry, couldn't resist!



Feb 08, 2010 at 07:59 AM
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p.2 #2 · mark IV raw support


chippy_jersey wrote:
Great, so are you going to go out and take some pics with it, instead of telling us that you're getting one all the time?

Sorry, couldn't resist!



Still less than you are posting all over internet about 1.0.6. No, I am working today, but from home. So, just some initial shots will be done.



Feb 08, 2010 at 08:02 AM
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p.2 #3 · mark IV raw support


haha, very good. Looking forward to seeing the cat pics!


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:10 AM
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p.2 #4 · mark IV raw support


chippy_jersey wrote:
haha, very good. Looking forward to seeing the cat pics!



No CATS or DOGS!!! I have birds near my house, not much but fine for test.



Feb 08, 2010 at 08:14 AM
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p.2 #5 · mark IV raw support


jvvjvv wrote:
Got the camera and love it. Thanks for the replys.

I just upgraded ACR and it works fine. Breezy Browser just added it to theirs too.

Jack


Did you upgrade ACR in CS3 or CS4?



Feb 08, 2010 at 07:31 PM
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p.2 #6 · mark IV raw support


The ACR update is for CS4. I am like you, have CS3 and won't work with the IV. But CS4 should be here tomorrow and with ACR 5.6 update, CS4 will work.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:40 PM
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Golferdude1977 wrote:
The ACR update is for CS4. I am like you, have CS3 and won't work with the IV. But CS4 should be here tomorrow and with ACR 5.6 update, CS4 will work.


ACR in CS2 will open them, if you convert them to DNG first!



Feb 08, 2010 at 07:47 PM
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p.2 #8 · mark IV raw support


Yes, but if you have CS4 and the ACR 5.6 update, you should be able to open as is, no converting them. Otherwise, for CS2 and CS3, you have to use the DNG converter then open them in CS2/CS3. Still works, just an extra step.


Feb 08, 2010 at 07:52 PM
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p.2 #9 · mark IV raw support


True, but worth the extra step to process in LR3beta.


Feb 08, 2010 at 08:23 PM
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p.2 #10 · mark IV raw support


CS4 with ACR 5.6 works with the MKIV just fine.


Feb 08, 2010 at 09:20 PM
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p.2 #11 · mark IV raw support


Mickey wrote:
CS4 with ACR 5.6 works with the MKIV just fine.


Of course. LR3beta has new demosaic and NR algorithms. NR is far superior in LR3beta. That's the point I've been trying to make. The latest releases ACR 5.6 and LR 2.6 both have Mark IV support.



Feb 08, 2010 at 10:45 PM
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wyofizz wrote:
Did you upgrade ACR in CS3 or CS4?



CS4



Feb 09, 2010 at 01:07 PM
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Would you elaborate on your response? I'm using Lightroom 2.6. Is the noise reduction better with Lightroom 3 Beta? That is assuming I have already converted the file to DNG? Thanks.


Feb 10, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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Golferdude1977 wrote:
The ACR update is for CS4. I am like you, have CS3 and won't work with the IV. But CS4 should be here tomorrow and with ACR 5.6 update, CS4 will work.


You'll like other CS4 features as well. It's nice doing localized adjustments.



Feb 10, 2010 at 01:44 PM
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Rhett Gibson wrote:
Would you elaborate on your response? I'm using Lightroom 2.6. Is the noise reduction better with Lightroom 3 Beta? That is assuming I have already converted the file to DNG? Thanks.


Yes, the noise reduction is noticably better in LR3, plus there's better sharpening and post-crop vignetting. With that said, LR3 is a beta product, and I find it noticably slower. Right now, I'm only using LR3 for testing. To get your Mark IV files there, you have one of two options. First you can export the images as DNG from LR2, but you'll also send any adjustments you've made with them as LR embeds your adjustments into the DNG. This may be good if you like your file and don't want to start completely over. The other option is to download the free DNG converter that I linked to earlier. It will ONLY do the conversion and make no adjustments. With fresh files, I prefer option 2. YMMV.

David



Feb 10, 2010 at 02:46 PM
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p.2 #16 · mark IV raw support


Thanks. That is what I was listening for. For the time being, I can easily work with a few select images using LR Beta 3.


Feb 10, 2010 at 02:48 PM
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CS4 and Nik Software(Dfine 2.0) have all the MKIV upgrades. The Dfine 2.0 , IMHO, is way above most NR programs.
Patrick



Feb 10, 2010 at 02:56 PM
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32067dlm wrote:
Download the current DNG converter by clicking the link in the top right corner.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

David


Excellent, just what I needed.

Do you think when the upgrade is released it will have any more IQ advantage over converting to DNG and then processing ?



Feb 10, 2010 at 04:16 PM
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jeremy bs wrote:
Excellent, just what I needed.

Do you think when the upgrade is released it will have any more IQ advantage over converting to DNG and then processing ?


I really don't think so. When you set up the DNG converter, you have two options on how it deals with the file. In the first, you have the option to keep the original data, and in the second, you have the option to create a linear file. The linear file is demosaiced by the DNG converter, so the file would be changed. The linear file is essentially what you get with a sRAW or mRAW canon file. If the demosaic process has NOT been done (e.g., sRAW, mRAW, Linear), then the new LR algorithms will do the debayer or demosaic processes.

With that, this is all off the top of my head, so the terms and accuracy may not be 100%. The general concept is true, however.

The simple answer to your question; LR3 will only have an advantage if a) they do not change the algorithms from the beta, or b) you keep the original bayer information included in the file.

I hope that makes sense and is helpful.

David



Feb 10, 2010 at 04:26 PM
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p.2 #20 · mark IV raw support


Thanks for the detailed answer


Feb 10, 2010 at 04:47 PM
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