charles.K wrote:
Makten, nice shots! You are braver than me, as I could not go back to film
I'm actually not going "back". I started out photographing with a digital camera in 2005, but now I want to try something more challenging. Plus, I really, really hate the size of modern pro cameras.
Makten, do you have the 28 ZE, it's the only one I don't have. Sell it to me at a steal of a price and get yourself an M9 w/ZM lenses.. That way you'll have a light load, you'll still have zeiss lenses and rangefinders are an interesting challenge if you've never used one
Just realized you used an M6 and ZM lenses, so you're half way there!
adamdewilde wrote:
Makten, do you have the 28 ZE, it's the only one I don't have. Sell it to me at a steal of a price and get yourself an M9 w/ZM lenses.. That way you'll have a light load, you'll still have zeiss lenses and rangefinders are an interesting challenge if you've never used one
Just realized you used an M6 and ZM lenses, so you're half way there!
I have the ZF 35/2, 50/1.4 and 100/2, and I don't see any use for a 28 when I have the 35. Possibly I'll switch my Nikkor 24/2.8 AI for a ZF 25/2.8 some day, but the Nikkor is good enough for my use of such wide lenses.
Before the M6 I had an M8 for a while, and I've already had 5 lenses in M mount. So I know what RF's are about, and I love it! But I don't think I'd want one as my only camera. Certainly not at the price of an M9.
Also, shooting with the M6 "feels" very different to the M8 (and probably M9 too). Advancing the film, metering manually and then not having a clue of how the image turned out, makes me like it better. It's also better built and more solid than the M8, in my opinion. A little drawback is that the RF patch tends to flare much more in bright light, and the viewfinder isn't as contrasty and clear as with the M8, albeit a tad larger.
Makten wrote:
Also, shooting with the M6 "feels" very different to the M8 (and probably M9 too). Advancing the film, metering manually and then not having a clue of how the image turned out, makes me like it better. It's also better built and more solid than the M8, in my opinion. A little drawback is that the RF patch tends to flare much more in bright light, and the viewfinder isn't as contrasty and clear as with the M8, albeit a tad larger.
Sorry, a little OT, but have you looked at any of these options as a solution to the RF patch flare issue? http://leica.nemeng.com/020b.shtml
Love the field photo, specially considering how great it can look with better green tones
joakim wrote:
3 from my 28/2.0 before the World cup final.
Joakim, great work hiding the larger DOF & field curvature & ugly bokeh on corners, I have not managed to do this nearly as well as you.
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I have been shooting randomly infrared with by using Hoya R72 filter, not as often as I would have liked thou. I'm using 67mm filter and then step down rings to 58mm and 55mm. My 5DmkII is standard (not modified for IR), due to which my normal exposure is longish; f/4 & 60s or f/5.6 & 2min at ISO 100. I focus without filter then I use the IR mark on lens barrel to focus the lens to correct distance (not very accurate...). Below are some observations of lenses when shooting IR, have not shoot 21 or 85 since they would need bigger filter:
- 28ZE; works very well, easiest to focus, hot spot free at least until f/5.6
- 35ZE; works extreme well, slight tendency to hot spot, typically OK still at f/5.6
- 1.4/50ZE; bad hot spot, unusable (not exactly surprise since I have tried Contax 1.4 and 1.7, neither works well)
- 2/50ZE; to my surprise works well and hot spot free at least to f/5.6
- 2/100ZE; difficult to focus but when focus is nailed this is very good for IR, hot spot free at least to f/5.6
Apologies for bad B&W work, I haven't yet invested enough time to find good style for converting IR to B&W. If somebody has good technique (what color temperature & tint, how to convert B&W etc.) I'm interested to hear about it.
Co. Galway 10 - Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/35 @ f/4, 61s, ISO 100, Hoya R72:
Co. Galway 11 - Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 2/100 @ f/4, 59s, ISO 100, Hoya R72:
Co. Galway 20 - Carl Zeiss Distagon 2/28 @ f/4, 30s, ISO 200, Hoya R72:
rscheffler wrote:
Sorry, a little OT, but have you looked at any of these options as a solution to the RF patch flare issue? http://leica.nemeng.com/020b.shtml
Thanks a lot!!! I'll definitely try those solutions out.
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Here's one more with the M6 and 35/2.8 C-Biogon, probably wide open...
Samuli-
Nice IR, especially the last one. I haven't thought of using an unmodified Canon for this with a filter, as I thought the internal filter filter most of the IR out. Apparently not. Good to know, I'll have to try it Long exposure for IR is something I'm used to having formerly used the Konica 750 IR film (I still have 50-60 120-size rolls of it in the freezer). Some inspiration here to pull some of it out and use it.
One question out of curiosity, Do you talented guys - denoir, Makten, Adamdewilde and others I can not remember right now who have posted some amazing pics on this thread, sell your pictures on microstock websites? Just curiosity sake?
Samuli, thanks. Yes the horses head does stand out, but it does give a different feel to the normal shot, which you would normally take with a 85 or 100 FL.
I like the last IR shot
Makten, I with on keeping the gear light If leica came out with a FF, same low light capabilities as the 5DII, same viewing screen, I am sure it would be a hit. I personally don't like to travel into places overseas, or locally with overly obtrusive camera gear. This is one of the reasons, that I still occasionally use the Oly EP-1, with pana 20/1.7.
The maximum I will take with me, while travelling will be only one ZE FL lens for the day, or evening with the 5DII. The gear is simple, nothing to think about other than framing in mind to take the right shot.
Good shot Makten. Birch trees are not very common in Australia. We just have the messy eucalypt's.
Nice shots Lotus!
Nice series with 50/1.4 jojomon11. First shot has some blown highlights, on my monitor.
Makten wrote:
I have the ZF 35/2, 50/1.4 and 100/2, and I don't see any use for a 28 when I have the 35. Possibly I'll switch my Nikkor 24/2.8 AI for a ZF 25/2.8 some day, but the Nikkor is good enough for my use of such wide lenses.
Before the M6 I had an M8 for a while, and I've already had 5 lenses in M mount. So I know what RF's are about, and I love it! But I don't think I'd want one as my only camera. Certainly not at the price of an M9.
Also, shooting with the M6 "feels" very different to the M8 (and probably M9 too). Advancing the film, metering manually and then not having a clue of how the image turned out, makes me like it better. It's also better built and more solid than the M8, in my opinion. A little drawback is that the RF patch tends to flare much more in bright light, and the viewfinder isn't as contrasty and clear as with the M8, albeit a tad larger....Show more →
Not to get to far off topic, but I'll agree that film is fun for the "not knowing" factor. I actually loved everything about the M8 aside from the 1.3 crop and bad iso noise. But the photos I got from it were amazing. The M9 seems like the camera for me, coupled with a 50 lux. Though the price tag isn't for me, not unless I wanna sell my Zeiss lenses, and I'm not gonna do that. They're going to the grandchildren (if I ever have kids).
jfreak wrote:
One question out of curiosity, Do you talented guys - denoir, Makten, Adamdewilde and others I can not remember right now who have posted some amazing pics on this thread, sell your pictures on microstock websites? Just curiosity sake?
No I don't think I'd get any sales, I'm not really in the same league as the others listed above (most of how I make my living is with fashion or boring corporate work, and the odd event here and there). I'm sure the rest of them have a fighting chance though, and I'm sure people on the ZE forum have made good money with microstocks and ZE lenses.
charles.K wrote:
Just arrived home this afternoon to be greeted by a sunset that almost seemed to be on fire. It only last minutes, and I caught it with the ZE 100MP. I am still amazed how this lens can capture the colours without any processing.
Marvellous colours as you say but also nicely captured with the framing within the frame.
charles.K wrote:
Just arrived home this afternoon to be greeted by a sunset that almost seemed to be on fire. It only last minutes, and I caught it with the ZE 100MP. I am still amazed how this lens can capture the colours without any processing.
Great colors!
I am juggling with the idea of buying a first Zeiss for my 5D.
I do mainly landscape. Would you say that you could have obtain colors as good as this one with a ZE 21?
AhamB wrote:
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Did you have a look at the images made with the 21 in this thread??
AhamB
Don't knock on me too hard!! Sorry for asking the question before going through all 89 pages. I have low intermediate speed connection and each page takes almost half a minute to load. So I only look at the few first ones and something like the last 4 or 5 and saw only picture of ZE 100 MP, 85mm and 50 MP.
That is why I asked the question.
I intend to glance through all pages. But this will be a multi-day effort as I am very busy. That is why I asked the question to get a general comment!
Maybe if someone knows a multi-page sequence where mostly the ZE21 is the star, I could start right there
jfreak wrote:
One question out of curiosity, Do you talented guys - denoir, Makten, Adamdewilde and others I can not remember right now who have posted some amazing pics on this thread, sell your pictures on microstock websites? Just curiosity sake?
I'm not one of these mentioned talented guys but nevertheless I tried to sell some of my images on a microstock website. So far I had in a half year about 150 downloads and got about 250€. Not much money, but not much work either.
I don't shoot for stock, I just shoot for fun and upload some of my images.
I'm still not sure, if I will continue uploading images to microstock or not.
@Claude: Sorry! I'm sure that some users of the Distagon 21 will be happy to comment, but I think it's safe to say that the colors are at least as good as those from the Makro-Planar 100 which you commented on. I'll see if I can find some of the best shots done with the 21 that show the Zeiss colors. The threads from Zyadji's travels come to mind...
Plus, I really, really hate the size of modern pro cameras.
Sorry for asking the question before going through all 89 pages. I have low intermediate speed connection and each page takes almost half a minute to load. So I only look at the few first ones and something like the last 4 or 5 and saw only picture of ZE 100 MP, 85mm and 50 MP.