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p.166 #1 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


last one is hilarious lol. at least the 10% you nailed focus on came out great ... and there is blue skies where u live! lol


Sep 11, 2010 at 01:10 PM
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p.166 #2 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


teh_rebel wrote:
last one is hilarious lol. at least the 10% you nailed focus on came out great ... and there is blue skies where u live! lol


Thanks. .. you and your blue skies.. Is this blue enough for you?






















Sep 11, 2010 at 01:28 PM
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p.166 #3 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


^^^ excellent .. i was beginning to think sweden was like london. all i saw was gray skies and dreary days when i was there lol


Sep 11, 2010 at 01:30 PM
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p.166 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


philber wrote:
Here are 3 shots taken within seconds of each other, of the same scene, more or less framed similarly, with 3 different lenses, all ZE, and the same PP. Now this is not a quiz, nor a scjentifically precise test, I would just like your comments as to the lens rendition.


I like the first one best. Let me guess: 50/1.4 Planar...

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Stockholm half marathon; 100/2 Makro-Planar:






















35/2 Distagon:






















Sep 11, 2010 at 03:53 PM
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philber wrote:
Here are 3 shots taken within seconds of each other, of the same scene, more or less framed similarly, with 3 different lenses, all ZE, and the same PP. Now this is not a quiz, nor a scjentifically precise test, I would just like your comments as to the lens rendition.


I prefer the second which I suppose is the 28/2. No shot with the 21? The first one is obviously the 50 Planar. I did not know what to make of the last one.. reminds me a bit of the 35/2 but I thought you did not have that one any more..

Comparisons like that between focal lengths are difficult as they tend to excel for different scenes.



Sep 11, 2010 at 04:06 PM
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p.166 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Philippe,
I will say 28, 21, 50. Was going to take some shots of a local festival today but opted to not take my camera so I could partake in the festivities My head hurts now...



Sep 11, 2010 at 04:22 PM
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p.166 #7 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Good try, but no cigar, Jason. Luka has all of them right, and Martin also has a 100% score, but on a smaller sample. Reason for this is that my dealer has a second hand 35 f:2.0, which is mine for the week-end, and I debate whether to get until February, which, for me, is a long way off. Hence the comparison, and my request for comments on the renderings.


Sep 11, 2010 at 04:30 PM
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philber wrote:
Good try, but no cigar, Jason. Luka has all of them right, and Martin also has a 100% score, but on a smaller sample. Reason for this is that my dealer has a second hand 35 f:2.0, which is mine for the week-end, and I debate whether to get until February, which, for me, is a long way off. Hence the comparison, and my request for comments on the renderings.


Why not get an old Contax or Rollei 35/1.4 until February? You are unlikely to lose any money on it as the prices are at a historical low (people are waiting for the new lens). If the new one turns out to be different - which it will most likely - prices for the old one are likely to go up as people will get all nostalgic about its rendering style.

Plus you might be interested in some variation in shooting - the (old) 35/1.4 is awesome wide open but not anything special stopped down. Since you usually like to stop down quite a bit it may be interesting to try an alternative technique with a lens that really rewards it.



Sep 11, 2010 at 04:45 PM
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p.166 #9 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Philippe, very nice church shots with 100MP #2 and 4 are my favs.
Interesting take with the 3 lenses. Personally you cannot wrong with 35/2, as it is lighter than the 35/1.4 and an easy lens to use. You can always sell, if the price is right. Looking in hind sight, I do prefer the 35 over the 28, though it is hard to compare. Luka suggestion of the older 35/1.4 is an excellent one too.

Really nice beach shots Bob. What PP did you use?
Luka great action shots Great practice for your MF skills
Martin great job with the MF too



Sep 11, 2010 at 07:10 PM
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p.166 #10 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thanks Charles. There is a time and place for MF. Capturing marathon runners isn't it.


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p.166 #11 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Great shots Bob! Excellent tone and rendering. Love #3.


Sep 11, 2010 at 10:20 PM
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p.166 #12 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


I have a question for all you Zeiss experts. I believe I have narrowed down what Zeiss lenses will work best for me and will be next on my list. A 21 & 100MP. That would give me 21, 35, and 100. Was going to go 21,35, and 50MP but with 35 and 50 being so close I think I would be better served going 100 instead. I am still teetering on picking up a 50 however and was wondering if anyone has used one with extension tubes for macro ability just for kicks? Would be great to have a 50 and 100 with macro ability while saving $$ unless IQ suffers. Any experience or thoughts?


Sep 12, 2010 at 04:37 AM
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p.166 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


charles.K wrote:
Great shots Bob! Excellent tone and rendering. Love #3.


+1

#3 is great.

The statues are nice, but I'm afraid you don't stand a chance against Philippe and Paris



bigkidneys wrote:
I have a question for all you Zeiss experts. I believe I have narrowed down what Zeiss lenses will work best for me and will be next on my list. A 21 & 100MP. That would give me 21, 35, and 100. Was going to go 21,35, and 50MP but with 35 and 50 being so close I think I would be better served going 100 instead. I am still teetering on picking up a 50 however and was wondering if anyone has used one with extension tubes for macro ability just for kicks? Would be great to have a
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The short answer is that the 50 MP can't really be used with tubes. It's minimum focus distance is very short already and it has an extremely recessed front element meaning that with a tube the MFD would end up inside the lens (between the edge of the lens and the front element). Get the 100 MP instead - it's better in every way.

21 - 35 - 100 is the perfect Zeiss trio.



Sep 12, 2010 at 06:13 AM
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denoir wrote:
+1

#3 is great.

The statues are nice, but I'm afraid you don't stand a chance against Philippe and Paris


The short answer is that the 50 MP can't really be used with tubes. It's minimum focus distance is very short already and it has an extremely recessed front element meaning that with a tube the MFD would end up inside the lens (between the edge of the lens and the front element). Get the 100 MP instead - it's better in every way.

21 - 35 - 100 is the perfect Zeiss trio.


Thanks Denoir, but I was referring to the 50 1.4 with extension tubes. I have my eye on a 100MP at the moment but was also considering picking up a 50 1.4 as well and maybe adding some extension tubes later just for kicks.



Sep 12, 2010 at 06:16 AM
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p.166 #15 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


50/1.4 with extension tubes? Good god no! The 50/1.4 is terrible close up, especially at larger apertures. I think adding an extension tube and posting the pictures in a public forum would fall into the category of "crimes against humanity"


Sep 12, 2010 at 06:19 AM
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p.166 #16 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Haha! Just thought I would ask you guys considering you all know the ins and outs of each lens. I have seen pictures of people that I would consider "CRimes against Humanity" and I want no part of that my friend


Sep 12, 2010 at 06:27 AM
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p.166 #17 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Jason, I tried the 50 f:1.4 with tubes. Not a good idea.... can't confess to more, because confessed criminals belong in prison, but....


Sep 12, 2010 at 06:37 AM
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p.166 #18 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


denoir wrote:
+1

#3 is great.

The statues are nice, but I'm afraid you don't stand a chance against Philippe and Paris


Thanks Luka but that won't stop me from trying. It'll be practice for when I visit Paris this coming spring!

Bob



Sep 12, 2010 at 08:35 AM
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p.166 #19 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


bigkidneys wrote:
I have a question for all you Zeiss experts. I believe I have narrowed down what Zeiss lenses will work best for me and will be next on my list. A 21 & 100MP. That would give me 21, 35, and 100. Was going to go 21,35, and 50MP but with 35 and 50 being so close I think I would be better served going 100 instead. I am still teetering on picking up a 50 however and was wondering if anyone has used one with extension tubes for macro ability just for kicks? Would be great to have a
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AFAIK extension tubes don't degrade quality, but they do need more light to function. As distance diminishes light hitting the sensor. I've done some work with extension tubes and all the lenses work decently well with them..

Get yourself the 100 MP ZE since you already have the 35.. Later on add the 21 (if wides are your thing) and when you do want a 50, go for the 50 MP ZE...


Guys I've been crazy busy, and haven't even had time to keep up with this forum, I'm going to Serbia next weekend, and transiting through Amsterdam (for all who chimed in about where to transit through). So you can expect some photos soon!


EDIT: Why is everyone dogging on the extension tubes? Did he mean specifically for the 50 1.4 UMM... Get yourself a 50 MP ZE if that's what your asking, but as a rule the extension tubes are "fine" for adding macro capabilities to your lenses.


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Sep 12, 2010 at 09:18 AM
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p.166 #20 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Phillipe - love the 21 in those churches . . . I should be there in the spring. Can't wait to try it out.


Sep 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM
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