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p.117 #1 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Nice.

Continuing on the nautical theme:




























Jul 29, 2010 at 01:04 AM
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p.117 #2 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Again excelllent shots Phil. I like these better that the first.
Amazing shots Luka, as usual. My favourite would #2.



Jul 29, 2010 at 01:09 AM
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p.117 #3 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Denoir: Love the shots! First two at Karlberg? Makes me miss Swedish summer...I would be far at Svartlöga somewhere right now...


Jul 29, 2010 at 01:11 AM
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p.117 #4 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thanks Charles!


Krosavcheg wrote:
Denoir: Love the shots! First two at Karlberg? Makes me miss Swedish summer...I would be far at Svartlöga somewhere right now...


Thanks! Yep, that's Karlberg shot from Kungsholmen. The last two are from Pampas marina. It's part of my standard photo/walking route (starting from my place at Kungsholms strand, walking up to Solna (Vreten) following the shore). So I've posted quite a few shots from that route. It's pretty nice for photography, but to be honest, I'm getting bored by it. The positive side of it that it forces me to find new ways of photographing the same things.

I don't think you would miss the Swedish summer today though..rain



Jul 29, 2010 at 01:31 AM
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Jul 29, 2010 at 01:54 AM
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p.117 #6 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


It works.Thanks Samuli.


Jul 29, 2010 at 01:56 AM
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Peire wrote:
It works.Thanks Samuli.


Peire, after seeing you post links the past few days I had JT from zeissimages put a link under the picture on zeissimages.com that will bring up the code for you to directly link. see here:

http://zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=678



Jul 29, 2010 at 07:22 AM
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p.117 #8 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


SAmuli: i like too much your hdrs but there is some hazyness and loss of sharpness and pop, i agree that in the cathedral the result is absolutely gorgeous but in the sunsets it does not work for me, have you tried tufuse? i like it too much



Jul 29, 2010 at 08:05 AM
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desinteresadam wrote:
SAmuli: i like too much your hdrs but there is some hazyness and loss of sharpness and pop, i agree that in the cathedral the result is absolutely gorgeous but in the sunsets it does not work for me, have you tried tufuse? i like it too much

desinteresadam, TuFuse doesn't seem to be color managed and it's Windows only - no I have not tried and based on these two factors I can't try it in future either, complicates workflow too much and would force editing of files in gamma colorspace.

With HDR or any other similar method it's not possible to get faultless images - after all it's questions about shrinking e.g. 15 stops dynamic range to 6 stops. Some techniques maintain locally things well but can cause for example very unnatural effects e.g. reflection more brighter than object itself or something in shadow brighter than similar object/surface in light - however this kind of techniques maintain "pop" better. On other hand methods doing less local adjustments have tendency of loosing "pop".

Sharpness I'm not sure what you refer to - sharpness cannot be seen on 975px wide thumbnail image. On real size HDRs are as sharp as normal images. Are you referring to microcontrast or something else?

In this kind of field the details all smaller than one pixel on 975px wide - on large print/looking 100% there is very much detail in this kind of field. Also in neither of the photos DOF doesn't cover the whole photo - on infinity the detail is equivalent of about 2Mpix camera, f/5.6 at 100mm doesn't have everything from front to back in focus.




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Luka the 2nd boat picture very very nice. How you do your white balance? Use autoWB? Constant WB? Pick white/gray for each photo?

Samuli



Jul 29, 2010 at 09:09 AM
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p.117 #10 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Thanks Samuli.

In the two first photos I picked a white spot (the wall in the background) resulting in a warmer image than the in-camera AWB produced (and which was more accurate as this was very early morning and the light had a strong blue tone). Here is another shot taken at the same time as that second boat picture, but without any WB adjustments:







This was actually more realistic, but I preferred the calibrated, warmer one.



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rsolti13 wrote:
Peire, after seeing you post links the past few days I had JT from zeissimages put a link under the picture on zeissimages.com that will bring up the code for you to directly link. see here:

http://zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=678


Thank you rsolti



Jul 29, 2010 at 09:57 AM
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denoir wrote:
Thanks Samuli.

In the two first photos I picked a white spot (the wall in the background) resulting in a warmer image than the in-camera AWB produced (and which was more accurate as this was very early morning and the light had a strong blue tone). Here is another shot taken at the same time as that second boat picture, but without any WB adjustments:

http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/zeiss100-145.jpg

This was actually more realistic, but I preferred the calibrated, warmer one.


Agreed!



Jul 29, 2010 at 10:04 AM
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p.117 #13 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Yes, Samuli i refer to the 3d quality and microcontrast of the image, on the other hand i must tell you that i didn't know tufuse is not color managed. I use the free version and the results are in only 8 bits( if there is a 16 bit output i don´t know how to get it) though you could check this link:




and see how good it works in challenging conditions( shooting against the sun at sunset, or sunrise without nd grads)
thank you for your detailed response Samuli and forgive my english please



Jul 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM
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p.117 #14 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


this image belongs to Dsjtecserv a very talented and skillful member of the Max Lyons forums i hope this doesn't offend him in any way.
Excuse the off topic please



Jul 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM
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p.117 #15 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Anyone know if there has been any word or hints from Zeiss about a ZE 24mm?


Jul 29, 2010 at 12:14 PM
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@Eirik: Zeiss are developing an improved version of the Z* 25/2.8, so I wouldn't expect them to come with a Z* 24mm.


Jul 29, 2010 at 02:28 PM
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p.117 #17 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


AhamB wrote:
@Eirik: Zeiss are developing an improved version of the Z* 25/2.8, so I wouldn't expect them to come with a Z* 24mm.


The improved version of the 25/2.8 might as well be a 24/2.

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Jul 29, 2010 at 02:55 PM
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p.117 #18 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Samuli, Philber, denoir, teh_rebel and others I forgot to mention - great images!


Jul 29, 2010 at 03:02 PM
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p.117 #19 · ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)


Makten - great location! Now you need a lovely model for a session there! I love qualities of black & white film - it still very hard to replicate them in digital pp...


Jul 29, 2010 at 03:04 PM
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Diploneis wrote:
Makten - great location! Now you need a lovely model for a session there! I love qualities of black & white film - it still very hard to replicate them in digital pp...


Oh no, that would just have been tacky. I hate model pictures taken at ruins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsch

And yes, the tonality of the film is hard or impossible to replicate with a digital sensor.



Jul 29, 2010 at 03:24 PM
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