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Archive 2009 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics

  
 
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p.5 #1 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


digitalbug30d wrote:
you guys are making it harder for me...
I am on the fence between a 7D,1dmk2n or a good 1dmk3


Have to go for the 1dm2n as this is a great camera and maybe the best one Canon made. Fits right in between at a 1.3 digital factor so on my 500 with either TE it is sharp and fast and focus is right there. On my 400 2.8 off a monopod it is unbeatable for all kinds of fast moving photos and of small birds up close.
I back up with the 40D and the 20D and feel with the larger files of the newer cameras you also have to keep upgrading your computer. One of mine has to break before I buy a new one.
Lou



Dec 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM
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p.5 #2 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


Very Nice And The Princess Is So Cute. Ed


Dec 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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p.5 #3 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


PetKal wrote:
Not sure what you mean by that ?


Crop factor...1.6x vs 1.3x. With the 1.6x the subject fills more of the frame.



Dec 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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p.5 #4 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


Given I can only afford the 400mm F5.6 for my longest lens the 7D made more sense then a 1D Mark III. Sure 10 MP is not a problem with a 500, 600, or 800mm len. But is a problem with 400mm or 300mm.

I can crop 55% of the 7D image and still have the 10 MP resolution of the 1D Mark III.
That is a huge advantage.

If I crop 55% of the 1D Mark III the image is down to 5.4 MP



Dec 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM
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p.5 #5 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


abqnmusa wrote:
Given I can only afford the 400mm F5.6 for my longest lens the 7D made more sense then a 1D Mark III. Sure 10 MP is not a problem with a 500, 600, or 800mm len. But is a problem with 400mm or 300mm.

I can crop 55% of the 7D image and still have the 10 MP resolution of the 1D Mark III.
That is a huge advantage.

If I crop 55% of the 1D Mark III the image is down to 5.4 MP


But you can also use the 1,4x extender on the 1D3 and still have AF



Dec 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM
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p.5 #6 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


Lars Johnsson wrote:
But you can also use the 1,4x extender on the 1D3 and still have AF


Right...but center point only, which can be quite a pain in the ass at times.



Dec 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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M Vers wrote:
Right...but center point only, which can be quite a pain in the ass at times.


I use center point most of the time anyhow. And it's a lot better than having no points at all



Dec 17, 2009 at 01:08 PM
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p.5 #8 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


Are we actually saying that 7D, a medium grade camera, actually is better than 1D MkIII, which is (was?) the top sports/action/BIF pro-grade camera?

Wow...
I'm rearranging gear at the moment, and this got me thinking.....



Dec 17, 2009 at 01:09 PM
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p.5 #9 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


MkIII + 7D make a nice combo.
7D-Reach, sport/BIF focus ability, pixel size, some custom function options, button resources, up to 3 slave flashes triggered.
MKIII-Landscape, Portrait, birding on longer lenses, teleconverter abilities, shooting in Tv with a meter, better ISO capabilities.
Thats my assessment. The MKIII is a great camera. The 7D works well with it, but I don't know if I'd give it up for the 7D.

Karl was kind enough to get me this link, which Rob wrote for CFn settings of the 7D
for BIFs, thanks Karl and Rob! The one I was looking for.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/837610/0?keyword=7d#7799128



Dec 17, 2009 at 11:50 PM
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p.5 #10 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


I'll also add and finish with this one last 7D photo, 500mm+1.4x tele [700mm]

7DHawksBIF 370.jpg
Date Taken: 2009-12-03 14:11:20
Camera: Canon EOS 7D
Exposure Time: 0.0006s (1/1600)
Aperture: f/6.3
ISO: 400
Focal Length: 700mm (1120mm in 35mm)
Cropped
Date Modified: 2009-12-03 14:11:20
Photo Dimensions: 5184 x 3456
File Size: 6.90 MB
Flash: flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Exposure Program: shutter priority
Exposure Bias: 2/3 EV
Exposure Mode: auto
White Balance: auto
Color Space: sRGB
Neat Image used for noise reduction




Dec 18, 2009 at 12:41 AM
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p.5 #11 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


lbuscher wrote:
Have to go for the 1dm2n as this is a great camera and maybe the best one Canon made.
Lou


I have been using 1DMkIINs since their introduction, and probably will continue to do so until MkIV proves itself operationally. However, there is something to be said about MkIII specifications:
* 10 FPS comes handy on occasion
* nice files, not too large either
* good ISO performance, higher sensitivity low light focusing
* improved user's interface
* super battery life,
etc......etc.

Yes, I believe 1DMkIIN is adequate or more than adequate for what most folks around here photograph, but a "good" MkIII should represent a significant improvement.
The only question that remains is how to get one of the "good" MkIIIs. Well, if I knew a simple and easy way, I'd get it myself. What I don't cherish is the prospect of having to do tedious Servo AF tests, with a potential of having the hassle of camera returns etc. However, if one doesn't need or use Servo AF much, then the chances of not being happy with the camera are probably rather low.



Dec 18, 2009 at 09:39 AM
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p.5 #12 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


Chris B. wrote:
I actually stepped "down" from a Mark 3 to a 7D, and I've not regretted it for one moment. This photo was also made with a 7D+500+1.4x




I know where that was taken. Nice shot.



Dec 18, 2009 at 05:08 PM
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p.5 #13 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


RobertLynn wrote:
I think a lot of folks who bought the 7D are buying it for the high ISO of it. Can you compare the 7D's 3200 vs the 1dmk3's 3200?

I'm pleased so far with my 7D,but I'm also wondering, should I have bought a used Mk3?


My current internal struggle...





Mar 28, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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p.5 #14 · Comparing my 7D to MKIII+BIFpics


PetKal wrote:
I have been using 1DMkIINs since their introduction, and probably will continue to do so until MkIV proves itself operationally. However, there is something to be said about MkIII specifications:
* 10 FPS comes handy on occasion
* nice files, not too large either
* good ISO performance, higher sensitivity low light focusing
* improved user's interface
* super battery life,
etc......etc.

Yes, I believe 1DMkIIN is adequate or more than adequate for what most folks around here photograph, but a "good" MkIII should represent a significant improvement.
The only question that remains is how to get one of the "good" MkIIIs. Well, if I knew a
...Show more

It's funny how every single 1D III ever sold on the B&S forum has been perfect as far as AF goes. Makes me wonder if the AF issues were a dream.

Unfortunately, unless the person has been doing extensive wildlife/bif/action shooting, claims of good AF are useless to me. What's fine for studio/snails/pelicans in flight may not be fine for an erratic small bif say.

However, a demonstrably good 1d III would be a nice upgrade over my 1D II as much as I still love it.

With the 7D it maybe the case the 1D III is cleaner at lower ISO's up to say 800, but the 7D does better at higher ISO's, not that I have a 1D III to test. My 7D is much better than my 1D II at high ISO at least a stop probably more. I've seen a few reviews that say the D300s is cleaner than the 7D below ISO 800, but the 7D handily beats it above this.



Mar 28, 2010 at 11:19 PM
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