Reputable does not mean that they will complain in public about the shortcomings of a camera, if they ever want to have a chance at the next pre-production model.
EB-1 wrote:
Reputable does not mean that they will complain in public about the shortcomings of a camera, if they ever want to have a chance at the next pre-production model.
EBH
Dang, I thought I was cynical! Well for we fellow skeptics, let's just hope intregity wins the day.
EB-1 wrote:
Reputable does not mean that they will complain in public about the shortcomings of a camera, if they ever want to have a chance at the next pre-production model.
EBH
Exactly. While both of these guys are great photographers, both of them are CANON guys. It seem that anyone that said anything bad about the Mk3 isn't getting any pre-production units to test. I also won't consider that Japanese guy from the Mk3 video as reputable either... I'm looking for 3rd party reviews like RobG, or Micheal Reichmann...
we demoed the Canon EOS 1D MkIV at the HD Expo Intensive Workshop last week and 150 experienced photographers were blown away by the low-light capability of the 1D .... we had Kalani (the model in the RED/Canon Intercut Reel) at one end of the long room and the 1D Mk IV at the other and turned all the lights off ... there was some reflected light of the projection screen but I could not make out the details of Kalani's face from the camera position ... we slowly cranked up the ISO setting and bang! .... it was like looking at Kalani in broad daylight with very little noise.
Yes, the low-light capability of EOS 1D Mk IV is truly amazing ... to hear 150 photographers in a crowded room all inhale at the same time and then start breathing again was quite something.
But how about the actual AF in low light?
I believe that it is rated the same as the 1DMIII (-1 EV), no?
(which is quite good to start with, just wondering if there was any improvment in focusing speed and acuracy in low light).
MSC wrote:
Dang, I thought I was cynical! Well for we fellow skeptics, let's just hope intregity wins the day.
Complaining in public--before the camera is even released--is not especially a mark of integrity. The purpose of a manufacturer providing cameras to pre-production testers is to get any bad news before production, fix the problems, and turn out a better product.
If the tester is going to "complain in public" about a product that hasn't even been released, he's failing the purpose of his being a pre-production tester.
EB-1 wrote:
Reputable does not mean that they will complain in public about the shortcomings of a camera, if they ever want to have a chance at the next pre-production model.
EBH
That's a bit too black and white. I don't know Ascough's reputation/work but I find it a little hard to believe he's simply flat-out lying when he says they're not restricted in what they can say. Plus which there are a million ways to objectively address shortcomings publicly without appearing to needlessly "complain/bitch" about something and piss everyone off.
RDKirk wrote:
Complaining in public--before the camera is even released--is not especially a mark of integrity. The purpose of a manufacturer providing cameras to pre-production testers is to get any bad news before production, fix the problems, and turn out a better product.
If the tester is going to "complain in public" about a product that hasn't even been released, he's failing the purpose of his being a pre-production tester.
These guys are not testers. The product lines are running and product is already going into boxes. The design and implementation was frozen long ago. At this point these are launch customers.
Well for we fellow skeptics, let's just hope intregity wins the day. 
I'm looking for 3rd party reviews like RobG, or Micheal Reichmann...