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p.1 #1 · 1D MK II review posted


Sorry if it is a repeat but I just read the excellent review by Micheal Reichmann on the 1Ds MKII. It was refreshing to see a real review, as opposed to spec lists mascarading as reviews elsehwere. A few details missing but not pretty good regardless.

The key learning for me was better than 10D noise figure. There is as much as 4db better S/N compared to 1Ds, solving one of my major issues with that camera. Can't wait to shoot wildlife at ISO 400 with this camera.

The big miss is the clunky UI for locking the mirror. How sad as this is just software.

The link is here.



Mar 30, 2004 at 11:18 PM
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p.1 #2 · 1D MK II review posted


uhhhh you should wait for the excelents photographers in this forum....and put Mr:
Micheal Reichmann in your garbage can for now or for ever....................)



Mar 31, 2004 at 05:33 AM
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p.1 #3 · 1D MK II review posted


I think you mean the 1D mk II -- I read your post and saw 1DS MK II and thought --- it can't surely be here ALREADY. Not More money to spend again.


Mar 31, 2004 at 06:45 AM
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p.1 #4 · 1D MK II review posted


Hm. I'm not grokking this correctly, from the review:


The Viewfinder

Though the bodies are almost identical, the viewfinder on the Mark II is simply not as bright and large as the one of the 1Ds. This is due, of course, to the use of a 1.3X smaller than "full-frame" chip, and the fact that the viewfinder image is therefore smaller and thus less bright. If you're used to a Canon 10D or other 6MP camera you'll find the viewfinder of the Mark II to be bright and large, but it does suffer in this regard by comparison with its "big-sister", the 1Ds.


How does the sensor size have anything to do with the viewfinder?

jas



Mar 31, 2004 at 09:08 AM
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p.1 #5 · 1D MK II review posted


The finder trys to display 100% of the image you will capture. Since the 1D-II chip is smaller than the 1Ds chip, the image in the finder will be smaller and therefor a little harder to use. Similarly, moving from a 10D to a 1D-II will be a big improvement because of the larger chip.

Also Uwe Stein at Digital Outback took a quick look at the 1D-II. His big finding is a real disappointment: Canon is using a strong AA filter on the 1D-II like on the 10D, and unlike the 1D which had a relatively weak filter. So like the 10D and unlike the 1D, images out of the camera are relatively soft.



Mar 31, 2004 at 09:13 AM
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p.1 #6 · 1D MK II review posted


Thanks, I hardly complete his review, I couldn't swallow his tone of writing. He sounds so offensive to readers. Of course, he is a webmaster, a writer, he can say whatever he want. But reading the last part on his update, he seems to trash other website and in the defensive mode too much.

XichLo
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Mar 31, 2004 at 09:50 AM
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p.1 #7 · 1D MK II review posted


I like the personal tone he gives to his reviews. One may not always agree with it, but as he states, he isnt setting out to do a fair and unbiased assessment. There are tons of other sites that provide those type of reviews and they are typically rather boring to read, each one is about as dry and generic as the next. They serve there purpose of course, just as MR's review serves a different purpose.

I liken MR's writing to the opinion pages of the newspaper and other sites to the front page news.



Mar 31, 2004 at 10:36 AM
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p.1 #8 · 1D MK II review posted


I enjoyed the review and his viewpoint. He is a photographer first and foremost and makes no bones about his style or opinions. refreshing.




Mar 31, 2004 at 12:45 PM
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p.1 #9 · 1D MK II review posted


GO BACK and read the review again. Michael has added some additional info at the bottom.
His reviews tell it like he sees it and I concur with his thinking.
Regards, Fred



Mar 31, 2004 at 12:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · 1D MK II review posted


His answers to the questions at the bottom are ridiculous. What could be more important than image quality? He not only refuses to discuss it, he puts down those of us who are interested in it. An examination of the Mk II's image quality is very important to many on this site who want to know if they can replace a 1Ds with a Mk II. Reichmann didn't give the slightest indication of how the image quality compares between these two cameras. Instead he told us a bunch of stuff we already know - it's solidly built and shoots 8 fps at 8 MP. Big deal - we read the specs two months ago.

The much shorter review on Digital Outback Photo is far more useful.

I guess I must be a pixel peeper, since I care how big I can print and how much detail my photos have.

Edited by bouch on Mar 31, 2004 at 11:13 AM GMT



Mar 31, 2004 at 01:11 PM
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p.1 #11 · 1D MK II review posted


Nicholas M wrote:
He is a photographer first and foremost


Really
Tell me some pictures on his site that you like.



Mar 31, 2004 at 01:12 PM
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p.1 #12 · 1D MK II review posted


From the Q&A at the bottom:
People shouldn't look for some dramatic change in this area. The real story with this camera is the shooting performance, not the image quality — which is terrific.



Mar 31, 2004 at 01:14 PM
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p.1 #13 · 1D MK II review posted


bouch wrote:
Really
Tell me some pictures on his site that you like.



What's your problem? Did he steal your lego or something?



Mar 31, 2004 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #14 · 1D MK II review posted


No, but I think photographer is someone who takes good pictures, not someone who starts a web site and posts BS reviews (Yes, I'm aware he posted his resume).


Mar 31, 2004 at 02:19 PM
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p.1 #15 · 1D MK II review posted


My point is he is a photographer, not a technical gearhead. And again, I find this type of review useful and refreshing.


Mar 31, 2004 at 02:30 PM
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p.1 #16 · 1D MK II review posted


You had trouble reading Canon's specs?


Mar 31, 2004 at 02:34 PM
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p.1 #17 · 1D MK II review posted


OK, fine, honestly i don't understand the aggressive posture you're taking.

I've read and reread the specs and stats and everything else that's been available for this camera.I've checked out every sample image that's been posted, I've pshopped some of them, even printed some out.

Reichmans review was useful to me because it was the first to actually describe how the camera 'felt' out in the field. It was by no means 'in-depth' and it did leave me wanting more but it was sufficient at this stage in this cameras lifespan.

Wait for the DP review, you'll enjoy it more I'm sure.



Mar 31, 2004 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #18 · 1D MK II review posted


bouch wrote:
Really
Tell me some pictures on his site that you like.


I'm partial to this particular gallery:

http://luminous-landscape.com/locations/brickworks.shtml



Mar 31, 2004 at 03:01 PM
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p.1 #19 · 1D MK II review posted


I'm not sure, if it was yet posted in this Forum: here another Review:
http://www.dforum.de/1D_mark2/1d_mark2_engl.htm

Sure, the 1DMKII's pictures may be a littlebit soft without sharpening, but this sure is due to the thick AA-filter. But without that filter moire artefacts would be the alternative. Another advantage of a thick filter is to decrease problems due to dust on the sensor.



Mar 31, 2004 at 03:01 PM
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p.1 #20 · 1D MK II review posted


H. Kretzschmar wrote:
I'm not sure, if it was yet posted in this Forum: here another Review:
http://www.dforum.de/1D_mark2/1d_mark2_engl.htm

Sure, the 1DMKII's pictures may be a littlebit soft without sharpening, but this sure is due to the thick AA-filter. But without that filter moire artefacts would be the alternative. Another advantage of a thick filter is to decrease problems due to dust on the sensor.



yes...i agree...pics are nice...thick aa filter reduces detail...but pics are very clear...a trade off.



Mar 31, 2004 at 03:14 PM
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