No, the point is that Canon has the lenses to target the top level market while Zeiss is busy to serve those who only want what they always had at a lower price point.
Yeah, i guess it is kinda funny that Zeiss is swooping in just below the price point of CaNikon's best, with some very nice native mount/not-so-alt "alt" glass that is affordable, if only just a little slower.
Fast wide angles will always be a lot more expensive, they are more complex optical designs.
For wide angle primes I prefer manual focus and the machined metal construction and silky smooth focusing action of the Zeiss lenses is second to none.
ISO1600 wrote:
Yeah, i guess it is kinda funny that Zeiss is swooping in just below the price point of CaNikon's best, with some very nice native mount/not-so-alt "alt" glass that is affordable, if only just a little slower.
Diglloyd is reporting that prices for the ZF.2 lenses are going up by 23%. That seems high, and would place them as noticeably more expensive than the ZE versions.
I will note that this 23% price rise is much higher than suggested by the range of euro-based priced in the original post. I'm wondering if there is an exchange rate effect going on with US$ prices. In any event, and as Diglloyd suggests, if you don't care about the chip (and you are in the US), get your ZF.1 lenses while you can before the price increase.
edwardkaraa wrote:
Honestly since they seem to be the same optical formula, I do not really see the urge to upgrade to the new line if you already own the ZF.1. It's just a matter of some additional convenience of being able to shoot in Shutter priority or Program modes, which I believe most owners don't really use anyway with MF lenses. It's nice to have it though if you're buying now, but no big deal imho.
It's more than that. You also get extra swanking metering that you don't get with non-CPU lenses. I'm not talking about matrix metering, but focus point-biased matrix metering, any focus point spot metering, etc.
The last rumour mentioned December. In fairness, the amount of new stuff that Zeiss have announced/released in the DSLR space since the summer is such that I am not sure that this is actually going to happen within this timeframe. Or else they were totally asleep at the wheel before...
Sam N wrote:
Wow, the ZF.2 are more expensive than ZE.
That is shitty. They must be factoring in how awful the dollar is right now into the newer prices. What's funny is the electronics should have been there from the begining. They're there in the ZK and ZE lenses. No reason to bend all of the Nikon users over. I do home they offer upgrade kits or something for the Nikon users. Hell, Nikon should offer upgrade kits for most of their MF lenses.
Looks like the 50/2 Makro is now $200 more expensive, at $1283...
The 21/2.8 is going up to $1762, or $272 more...
The 35/2 is now $1004, up only $178, a bargain, relatively speaking.
I was regretting having bought so many ZF lenses, only to have them finally stick a chip in them. Now, maybe I got a bargain...
rfkiii wrote:
Since I paid $1450 for my 18mm ZF from B&H, I am not very sympathetic of those who will have to pay $1395 for the ZF.2 version.
How is that lens?
TWoK wrote:
That is shitty. They must be factoring in how awful the dollar is right now into the newer prices. What's funny is the electronics should have been there from the begining. They're there in the ZK and ZE lenses. No reason to bend all of the Nikon users over. I do home they offer upgrade kits or something for the Nikon users. Hell, Nikon should offer upgrade kits for most of their MF lenses.
No electronics in the ZK's, just the electrical contact pattern. They're KA lenses rather than KA2 (which has the extra data contact and CPU like KAF/KAF2 lenses).
I mean that's all the ZF.2 lenses will have too. It's not like they'll have actually electronic apertures like the EOS line-up does. Nikon loves to scam it's users by not offering metering or all of the other swanky functions with their old lenses despite the camera being fully capable of doing such things.
they had better come in at under the prices for canon's best. if i'm going to be paying for manual focus lenses that don't have any IQ advantage (i.e., ZE 85 1.4 planar) over available AF lenses in the same FL arena, i expect more in trade than just nostalgia effect.
abam wrote:
they had better come in at under the prices for canon's best. if i'm going to be paying for manual focus lenses that don't have any IQ advantage (i.e., ZE 85 1.4 planar) over available AF lenses in the same FL arena, i expect more in trade than just nostalgia effect.
Please let me know which AF lens has IQ as good as the Zeiss ZE 85 Planar without a cost disadvantage. If I concur, I will buy it PDQ. Thanks.
