p.3 #1 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
Do what you want with your camera in public and stand your ground as you did. Your civil liberties are your civil liberties. Dont forsake them for other peoples wishes and wants. Photojournalists throughout our countries history pointed their cameras in every direction at all times. dont join the weeny wagoners and cowery away. My camera and if its leagal I point it in any direction I want ..Simple as that.
p.3 #2 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
RDKirk wrote:
I was just wondering if you actually had a rationale. At least "stealing my soul" is a rationale.
Was he actually "Just about 6 inches" behind you?"
There are many, many things the US that people have the liberty to do that annoy me. They still have the liberty to do it.
I am not the OP. I am asking you if it would bother you if I followed you around doing what I felt like doing, including walking 6 inches behind you.
And stop with the "stealing your soul" bit. It's childish and just a way to be dismissive of others. "Oh, is it going to steal your soul? How ignorant and backwards you must be to have any argument that would disagree with me."
mdude85 had the best answer above. I defer to them.
p.3 #4 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
And stop with the "stealing your soul" bit. It's childish and just a way to be dismissive of others. "Oh, is it going to steal your soul? How ignorant and backwards you must be to have any argument that would disagree with me."
If a person has no rationale for a hostile attitude, then I fully intend to be dismissive of it. Life is too short and I have too much to do to kowtow to irrational hostility. I'm not going to fawn before someone who is merely in front of me when I'm taking a street scene.
If I'm not in his space, he'd better stay out of mine. I'm from Oklahoma, where we have a "stand your own ground" law.
p.3 #5 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
RDKirk wrote:
If a person has no rationale for a hostile attitude, then I fully intend to be dismissive of it. Life is too short and I have too much to do to kowtow to irrational hostility. I'm not going to fawn before someone who is merely in front of me when I'm taking a street scene.
If I'm not in his space, he'd better stay out of mine. I'm from Oklahoma, where we have a "stand your own ground" law.
He wasn't taking a street scene. He was video taping the two people, ( most likely following behind them while doing this ), as they walked down the street.
As far as "Standing your own ground"...maybe that is exactly what the person was doing. It would be interesting how you would have reacted in this case given you have such a "law" in your state.
p.3 #6 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
chez wrote:
He wasn't taking a street scene. He was video taping the two people, (most likely following behind them while doing this ), as they walked down the street.
If he was keeping a reasonable distance (which is what it sounds like by his testimony) that would not have mattered.
What I asked for was a rationale. "He was standing too close to us" would have been a rationale for insisting that step back (but not that they stop filming). Even "He was stealing our souls" would have been a rationale--I would respect their religious beliefs.
But when someone merely says, "I don't like you doing that, so I demand you stop," they're going to have to do better than that. I would not stop taking pictures just because someone didn't like it.
There are too many people eager to pass laws prohibiting things they don't like simply because they don't like them.
p.3 #7 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
RDKirk wrote:
If he was keeping a reasonable distance (which is what it sounds like by his testimony) that would not have mattered.
What I asked for was a rationale. "He was standing too close to us" would have been a rationale for insisting that step back (but not that they stop filming). Even "He was stealing our souls" would have been a rationale--I would respect their religious beliefs.
But when someone merely says, "I don't like you doing that, so I demand you stop," they're going to have to do better than that. I would not stop taking pictures just because someone didn't like it.
There are too many people eager to pass laws prohibiting things they don't like simply because they don't like them. ...Show more →
This thing is still alive? Why do you think this is an issue of "laws" and "rights"? Sheesh man.
I have the "right" to get 12 inches from your face and comment how ugly your g/f is...over-and-over again. I have the "right" to mean-mug you at the gas pump for no reason at all. I have the "right" to drive a convertible into the 'hood and fly a confederate flag at full mast. How many thousands of examples do I have to give you of "rights" that shouldn't necessarily be exercised?
Why are we even talking about "rights". The OP was not doing anything of measurable importance and pissed a dude off. What ground is lost by simply moving on instead of getting into a pissing match? Is that going to create a slipperly slope that's going to prevent future photogs from making legitimate captures? I don't think so. I'm all for making a point and taking a stand, but there is no point to be made here.
p.3 #8 · What right do we have to shoot in public?
I have the "right" to get 12 inches from your face and comment how ugly your g/f is...over-and-over again.
Actually, that is specifically against the law in some states.
I have the "right" to mean-mug you at the gas pump for no reason at all.
I don't know that that means. If it means "glare at me," then, yes, you do.
I have the "right" to drive a convertible into the 'hood and fly a confederate flag at full mast.
Yes, you do.
Why are we even talking about "rights".
Because the OP's question was: What right do we have to shoot in public?
The answer to that question was that he has every right, provided he's not breaking some other specific law. He is not wrong, period. He is not even immoral. Nobody has the right to stop him. Nobody has any more right to accost him for photographing them on the public street than they have if he stood there whistling "Yankee Doodle."
