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Archive 2009 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

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Dpic_arctic wrote:
USB 3.0? I must be out of the loop. Never heard of it. Did this come with Windows 7?

It's pretty new but I know there are motherboards out there that support it and at least one external HDD manufacturer has drives on the market:

http://www.buffalotech.com/press/releases/buffalo-ships-first-superspeed-usb-30-external-hard-drive/

Oh yes, and the other thing - it's FAAAAAST!!

Jan 17, 2010 at 07:26 PM

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you see since the beginning of this continuous run on sentence another budding technology has come to fruition. no doubt self powered eSATA will arrive along with FW1600 and a few others before this thread runs out of steam and readers interest

Jan 17, 2010 at 08:04 PM

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p.7 #3 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

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PierreB wrote:
This has been a very useful thread for me as I too need to decide on the spec of a new Windows machine. Can you tell me whether that Asus board supports USB 3.0? I am continually backing up to external HDD's (WD MyBooks) and copying a terabyte or more on USB 2 is just so slow.

Dpic_arctic wrote:
USB 3.0? I must be out of the loop. Never heard of it. Did this come with Windows 7?

PierreB wrote:
It's pretty new but I know there are motherboards out there that support it and at least one external HDD manufacturer has drives on the market:

http://www.buffalotech.com/press/releases/buffalo-ships-first-superspeed-usb-30-external-hard-drive/

Oh yes, and the other thing - it's FAAAAAST!!

I guess I was too absorbed in cameras to hear anything about USB 3.0. Looks like we'll be seeing it being widely used soon.

Jan 18, 2010 at 02:39 AM

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p.7 #4 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

I guess I was too absorbed in cameras to hear anything about USB 3.0. Looks like we'll be seeing it being widely used soon.

I'll certainly make sure that whichever MB I go for supports it. It's backward compatible so why not.

Jan 18, 2010 at 02:51 AM

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p.7 #5 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

Dpic_arctic wrote:
USB 3.0? I must be out of the loop. Never heard of it. Did this come with Windows 7?

PierreB wrote:
It's pretty new but I know there are motherboards out there that support it and at least one external HDD manufacturer has drives on the market:

http://www.buffalotech.com/press/releases/buffalo-ships-first-superspeed-usb-30-external-hard-drive/

Oh yes, and the other thing - it's FAAAAAST!!

I guess I was too absorbed in cameras to hear anything about USB 3.0. Looks like we'll be seeing it being widely used soon.

PierreB wrote:
I'll certainly make sure that whichever MB I go for supports it. It's backward compatible so why not.

Oh, it's backwards compatible? Great! that was something I wanted to know.

Jan 18, 2010 at 03:31 AM

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Dpic_arctic wrote:
I guess the question now is how are VRs different than a HDD? They appear to having moving components unlike SSDs.

A VR is an HHD. It's just spinning faster and has only one platter - that's it. I dunno if they're available in 500GB (single platter density) yet or not but if they are they might be worth looking into! If they aren't yet don't bother. A multi-platter drive at 7200 RPM with 500GB per platter will be very close to the same speed if not faster - and of course it'll be 1.5 or 2 TB and additionally cost less no doubt.

Jan 18, 2010 at 03:59 AM

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p.7 #7 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

Dpic_arctic wrote:

Oh, it's backwards compatible? Great! that was something I wanted to know.

Here's an article with a bit more info: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/156416/usb_30_promises_faster_speeds_backward_compatibility.html

Jan 18, 2010 at 04:21 AM

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p.7 #8 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

I would go for a PC (only because macs are over $$$)

Too make it really simple, you obviously have held onto your pc for a looong time & would expect you may do same with the next purchase..

Get a solid motherboard
Go for an i7 processor
Get fastest RAM for board [4Gb]
Research gear on a site such as Toms Hardware or speak with local PC store but just don't purchase straight away - get the advice, research & find best prices...

I have just purchased a new laptop with W7 64 bit [pre-installed] as mentioned already, software is still predominately 32 bit - MOST of the software that I have is 32 bit and a lot of it has not been released in 64 bit.. SO I decided to downgrade to W7 32 bit until things change.

If you upgrade to PS CS4 a big capability increase will be made with a good graphics card.

SO get a system with 64 bit capabilities but I personally would recommend sticking with W7 32 bit for now then change up at a later date when 64 is the norm then no mismatched software issues

Can increase your memory at later stage as 4Gb is all that will be needed for now..

Good Luck with your new purchase

p.s. motherboard is the key - if you pay a bit Xtra and make sure it has all the latest technology with room for expanding memory!!
You will only be limited to what you can use if the motherboard does not have capabilities

Jan 18, 2010 at 05:14 AM

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Will CS2 run in 64 bit?
Opinions on using the i5 processor?

Jan 18, 2010 at 10:26 AM

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planning wrote:
Will CS2 run in 64 bit?
Opinions on using the i5 processor?

CS2 will not run in 64bit.
The i5 processors are more energy efficient and run cooler than the i7 series. They'll have to run on the LGA1156/P55 chipset motherboards and you may be somewhat limited on future hardware upgrades. But they do overclock quite well.

Nicholas
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Jan 18, 2010 at 11:34 AM

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native-ridge wrote:
I would go for a PC (only because macs are over $$$)

Too make it really simple, you obviously have held onto your pc for a looong time & would expect you may do same with the next purchase..

Get a solid motherboard
Go for an i7 processor
Get fastest RAM for board [4Gb]
Research gear on a site such as Toms Hardware or speak with local PC store but just don't purchase straight away - get the advice, research & find best prices...

I have just purchased a new laptop with W7 64 bit [pre-installed] as mentioned already, software is still predominately 32 bit -...Show more →

Thanks for the advice. Actually, if I ever build, I think I will want someting more like 8-12 GB of RAM. It all depends on the price range I want to spend.

Jan 18, 2010 at 04:12 PM

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p.7 #12 · Best Computer for Photoshop?

Nickle S. wrote:
CS2 will not run in 64bit.
The i5 processors are more energy efficient and run cooler than the i7 series. They'll have to run on the LGA1156/P55 chipset motherboards and you may be somewhat limited on future hardware upgrades. But they do overclock quite well.

Nicholas
www.copperhillimages.com

So, if I want to upgrade my computer to i7 processor and window 7 64bits, I cannot run my current 32-bit software? that's a lot of limitation because I have a lot of 32-bit software.

BTW, thank you for contributing to this excellent thread. Your input are very valuable.

Jan 19, 2010 at 05:39 PM

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Tuan Luong wrote:
So, if I want to upgrade my computer to i7 processor and window 7 64bits, I cannot run my current 32-bit software? that's a lot of limitation because I have a lot of 32-bit software.

BTW, thank you for contributing to this excellent thread. Your input are very valuable.

Tuan,
If you do the upgrade you'll be able to run your 32bit programs in "compatibility" mode. There are some programs/software that are waiting for updates or patches and there is some hardware that's waiting for upgraded drivers, too, so there will be some "growing pains", so to speak. I estimate that 95% of programs and hardware that ran on 32b Vista run flawlessly on 64b W7, so I believe your transition would be just as painless as mine.

But on the plus side, you'll be able to use a whole heap of RAM in the 64bit Photoshop. I have 12 Gs in my PC and CS4 64bit can access just about 11 Gs. This really pays off with large file sizes, panoramas for instance, images with many layers and also for working multiple files at a time. i7 processor with W7 64bit is the future, the chipset will be around for a long time. My mobo has 6 RAM slots and could handle 24 Gs if and when I need it, newer mobos can take up to 64 Gs. If you plan on moving into D-SLR video, all of this becomes even more important.

Nicholas
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Jan 19, 2010 at 05:58 PM

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Nicholas,

Thank you for the great response. So, I can run my existing software in "compatibility" mode, that's a very good news for me. I'll definitely upgrade my CS2 to CS4 to take advantage of the large memory. I'll plan to get 12GB with my new system, so I will need to upgrade my photoshop. I do not plan to move into D-SLR video at this time, but I plan to do lots of panoramas, so I will need lots of memory. Now it's so painful to do panoramas on my 7 years old dual-Xeon (2.4G) and 2.5 G of memory in PS CS2.

Again, thank you for your help.

Tuan

Jan 19, 2010 at 06:20 PM

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Could anyone advise on the best setup for Lightroom? AFAIK Lr does not have the functionality to utilise a scratch disk so is it better to lean your system towards having more RAM or towards a faster processor or maybe something else??

Pierre.

Jan 19, 2010 at 07:16 PM

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planning wrote:
Will CS2 run in 64 bit?
Opinions on using the i5 processor?

Nickle S. wrote:
CS2 will not run in 64bit.
The i5 processors are more energy efficient and run cooler than the i7 series. They'll have to run on the LGA1156/P55 chipset motherboards and you may be somewhat limited on future hardware upgrades. But they do overclock quite well.

Nicholas
www.copperhillimages.com

Would it be better to get an i7 with 2.8 GHz, or an i5 with 3.2 GHz (both dual-core)? Why?

Jan 20, 2010 at 01:01 AM

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PierreB wrote:
Could anyone advise on the best setup for Lightroom? AFAIK Lr does not have the functionality to utilise a scratch disk so is it better to lean your system towards having more RAM or towards a faster processor or maybe something else??

Pierre.

From my tests LR wants core speed (this is opposed to number of cores) and fast I/O. So a single (dual or quad core) processor at 3 Ghz or more with your images (library and catalogue) on an SSD and about 8GB of ram would be optimal.

Jan 20, 2010 at 04:54 AM

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Bifurcator wrote:
From my tests LR wants core speed (this is opposed to number of cores) and fast I/O. So a single (dual or quad core) processor at 3 Ghz or more with your images (library and catalogue) on an SSD and about 8GB of ram would be optimal.

Thanks for the info.

I'll have to have a think about the best way to organise my images & catalogues. I work in different locations and on the road so I presently keep them on external drives and connect on USB 2 & that's the bottleneck. My new machine & drives will be USB 3 so that should help.

Jan 20, 2010 at 07:25 AM

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When buying a computer with Turbo Boost do you still order it overclocked?

Jan 21, 2010 at 07:42 AM

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When buying a computer with Turbo Boost do you still order it overclocked?

Jan 21, 2010 at 07:42 AM

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