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JackF
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Anyway, I completely agree that the best recourse is to send the thing in for professional repair. However, if you want to try self-rescue first/instead, then this would be the first step. (As you can tell, I'm no artist.)
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Thanks a lot for your great help Brian!! I will save those tips for later use (hope not though)

I sent the picture, I posted here, to the repair centre of the shop were I bought the lens as well. Just got their answer: send it to Canon to have it completely checked, internal mechanisms etc!!!
So there it goes.

Thanks again, much appreciated!!!

Jack


Jun 23, 2009 at 03:28 AM
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p.3 #2 · Never lend your gear... HELP


Look like the lens edge (where the thread is) is caved in from the impact. I like "sirimiri" in-depth suggestion, start by taking out/breaking out all the filter's shards, except if you have dremmel drill fitted with a small circular saw, and a steady hand,it is probably easier to circular saw the filter at two or more opposite point, and then just grab the broken filter out in 2 pieces. The thread for the lens is probably useless since the outter edge is no longer a perfect circle, so all in all, canon may have to replace the thread part of the lens or the whole outside casing for the lens. Just my 2 cents.


Jun 23, 2009 at 03:45 AM
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Y'all got to be friendly with your local repair shop. We do this "repair" for free, and it takes two minutes. Our repair tech uses a band wrench and a small rubber mallet. The glass WILL NOT damage the lens front element unless you hit THEM with the hammer . I have seen thousands of these filter jams in the last ten years and all have been easy and quick fixes for free.


Jun 23, 2009 at 04:02 AM
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JackF wrote:
Thanks a lot for your great help Brian!!


You're most welcome.

Off topic; I didn't look at your profile until I saw your use of "centre" instead of the American "center." I've never been outside North America, but if I ever get the chance to visit Europe, the Netherlands is high on my list of places I want to see.

The only Nederlander I know (and not well) is Maarten Pieters, the director of WOSTEP (the Watchmakers of Switzerland Technical and Education Program), who -- while he was assistant director -- was one of the examiners at my certification test.

And, of course, the actor Jeroen Krabbé, who has been in a number of American films.

Anyway, good luck with your situation. I'm sure the Canon technicians will take good care of you.



Jun 23, 2009 at 04:22 AM
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Hi,

I think there is something else that needs repairing here.

That is your friendship.

The BEST solution (IMHO) is to send the lens to a THIRD PARTY (canon or local camera shop) so THEY get the responsibility for telling the butter fingers friend that there is ANY damage and WHATEVER amount it may cost.

IF you use the THIRD PARTY as the "ruling judge" then YOU will do better in preserving YOUR FRIEND and....in my POV....true friends are much more valuable than ANY lens.

That is what I would do.

Then...when all is settled....You can ask HIM for a favor to REALLY clean the slate...such as borrowing his Ferrari for a nice weekend drive in the country....or something like that.



Jun 23, 2009 at 06:48 AM
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Two lessons to be learned...

Don't lend your gear.....to anyone (unless they're willing to instantly replace it).

Don't use cheap UV filters....



Jun 23, 2009 at 07:06 AM
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jamesf99 wrote:
Two lessons to be learned...

Don't lend your gear.....to anyone (unless they're willing to instantly replace it).

Don't use cheap UV filters....


First lesson I learned.
Second lesson: this is a B+W MRC (Multi Resisting Coating) UV-filter, worth € 77 equals approx US$ 100 You call that cheap?



Jun 23, 2009 at 07:16 AM
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jamesf99 wrote:
...Don't use cheap UV filters....


What; you think the most expensive filter on the planet wouldn't have suffered the same fate?



Jun 23, 2009 at 01:46 PM
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...can't help but be kind of curious where the lens hood and cap were residing when the "incident" occurred?


Jun 23, 2009 at 02:25 PM
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John_T wrote:
...can't help but be kind of curious where the lens hood and cap were residing when the "incident" occurred?


Dont need hood when you got the all saving filter on it! With hood/no filter, we wouldn't even have this thread here.



Jun 23, 2009 at 02:36 PM
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Here comes the anti-UV squad. Let the battle commences and let me get my popcorn first.


Jun 23, 2009 at 02:40 PM
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John_T wrote:
...can't help but be kind of curious where the lens hood and cap were residing when the "incident" occurred?


Ya know, I've tried shooting with the protective cap in place, but all my pictures turned out too dark.

Do you know what I was doing wrong?




Jun 23, 2009 at 02:49 PM
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...seen enough reruns of that soap opera.

**grabs hat and ducks out**



Jun 23, 2009 at 02:51 PM
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Some friend. Why didn't it just send it into repair and make apologies that there was a delay in returning it?


Jun 23, 2009 at 02:56 PM
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OMG .. is that my lens ? that is exactly what happened to my 17-40 with the filter on ..

but .. what i did was remove all the broken glass and use some really strong shears to cut the filter and use a large piler to bent them inwards .. and off it came



Jun 23, 2009 at 03:51 PM
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p.3 #16 · Never lend your gear... HELP


Happened to me in July 2007 with a 100-400L onto concrete from 1m .

I found the repair breakdown if you want an idea on (UK) prices. Canon also said small scratches to front elements won't affect image quality.

Front element group - £131.57
Autofocus - £37.80
IS Unit - £69.30
Filter ring - £22.06
Name ring - £2.17
Labour - £140.00
Postage -£20.00




Jun 23, 2009 at 04:54 PM
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p.3 #17 · Never lend your gear... HELP


I've never had filter wrenches NOT work. I use two and two rubber bands, and so far no filter has withstood this method


Jun 23, 2009 at 07:50 PM
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JackF wrote:
Second lesson: this is a B+W MRC (Multi Resisting Coating) UV-filter, worth € 77 equals approx US$ 100 You call that cheap?


No worries, Jack, I don't consider my B+W MRC Filters' to be cheap. I have several of em

James



Jun 23, 2009 at 09:30 PM
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If the lens was on the camera at drop-time, should Canon or somebody check out the camera thoroughly?

Frank



Jun 23, 2009 at 09:59 PM
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Well, a 20D ain't worth all that much these days moneywise, despite being a very capable body. I sold mine in January for $300, the minimum cost at Canon Canada is $180 for any fixes it seems. So it may be easier if you suspect the body to buy a "new" one outright.


Jun 24, 2009 at 07:44 AM
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