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p.5 #1 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


MSC wrote:
The unboxing thing is all over (cell phones, PDAs, PCs, the list is endless), and often in a lot more detail. Sometime a full length feature video showing untaping, the packaging, excitment building...it would seem those of us that don't understand it are behind the curve. It is harmless enough and some enjoy it, why not...and with so many boxes to unpack, we may need a new sub-forum for each of the gear forums.



either that or we have some sort of meaningful life...

but there should be sub forums for threads like this and the classic ' i took a week off work and am waiting for the ups man to deliver my new 55-200 IS lens' etc.



Mar 11, 2010 at 05:08 PM
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p.5 #2 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Im looking to sell a Mk I if anyone is interested


Mar 11, 2010 at 05:09 PM
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p.5 #3 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Nice to see and all that but, I think it's the biggest rip off that canon's pulled - I mean £1000 more expensive than the MKI. Won't be on my shopping list that's for sure


Mar 11, 2010 at 05:11 PM
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p.5 #4 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


tt_mt6 wrote:
Sounds good.. .a unboxing forum.


Yes. We can have a competition.

An unboxing match.

Or not.



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:01 PM
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p.5 #5 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


dmbphotography wrote:
Im looking to sell a Mk I if anyone is interested


Do you have an un-boxing video?



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:11 PM
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p.5 #6 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


lidesun wrote:
ya..

when cropping with photoshop, view the image at 100%, choose the crop tool, but you have to CLEAR the WIDTH and HEIGHT limits, let them to be "ZERO", after cropping, don't resize the image, this way you will get the true 100% crop.

Cheers...


What dpi to save the jpeg from the raw file before cropping? Certainly not 72 dpi, right?



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:22 PM
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p.5 #7 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


so you have a state of the art 5DII and a new state of the art 70-200 f2.8 with IS

and you used a flash....

way to push the envelop.. I salute you


tt_mt6 wrote:
I used a flash.





Mar 11, 2010 at 06:23 PM
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p.5 #8 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Savas K wrote:
What dpi to save the jpeg from the raw file before cropping? Certainly not 72 dpi, right?


It really doesn't matter..


Edited on Mar 11, 2010 at 06:35 PM · View previous versions



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:29 PM
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p.5 #9 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


lidesun wrote:
It really doesn't matter, as your full frame and 100% crop have the same dpi


Does that mean to post a reduced image at appropriate size for display in the thread and then crop from it? Will it not pixelate? Or crop from a larger version of the same image? Or is the crop generated from the raw file?



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:34 PM
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p.5 #10 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Savas K wrote:
Does that mean to post a reduced image at appropriate size for display in the thread and then crop from it? Will it not pixelate? Or crop from a larger version of the same image? Or is the crop generated from the raw file?




100% view is to view the image at its actual pixels, the ppi value you chose during the RAW converting to JPG only affects the print sizes, not the 100% viewing size on your screen. The file's actual pixels count didn't change unless you are doing UPSIZING OR DOWNSIZING file etc.. ppi has nothing to do with file's pixels count..

Say for a 1D Mark IV RAW file, when you converting it to JPG @ 300 dpi or 72 ppi, viewing them at 100% view size, they have the same size, but when you viewing them at print size, you will see the difference...


Edited on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:55 AM · View previous versions



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:40 PM
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p.5 #11 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Thank you. Much appreciated. I think I got it now. Here is an MK1 shot handheld at 200mm; f/2.8, 5D, unsharpened.

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v10/p943816531-4.jpg

100% crop:
http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v10/p1070672225-4.jpg



Mar 11, 2010 at 06:56 PM
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p.5 #12 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


A few more from the same day:

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v10/p806116080-4.jpg

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v8/p965381057-4.jpg

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p889558130-4.jpg



Mar 11, 2010 at 07:06 PM
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p.5 #13 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Wow Savas. Nothing wrong with those at all. As for exporting, I export at 96 DPI, since Macs use that screen rate. I think the newer windows systems are now using 96 as well. 72 DPI is now old school.


Mar 11, 2010 at 08:11 PM
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p.5 #14 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I am sorry but the images looked soft IMO. I agree with you SteveTuerk.


Mar 11, 2010 at 09:13 PM
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p.5 #15 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


leftbob wrote:
so you have a state of the art 5DII and a new state of the art 70-200 f2.8 with IS

and you used a flash....

way to push the envelop.. I salute you


Should he have shot at ISO 6400, 1/15, 200mm @ f/2.8? Would that have made his samples more legit? His images were supposed to show off the lenses IQ, not the camera's ISO performance or the lenses IS effectiveness.

Edited on Mar 11, 2010 at 09:22 PM · View previous versions



Mar 11, 2010 at 09:20 PM
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p.5 #16 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Trying to get the best out of the remaining light I have.... didn't have a tripod at work so it was quick and dirty.

Also I wanted to keep the lighting constant for the test.

leftbob wrote:
so you have a state of the art 5DII and a new state of the art 70-200 f2.8 with IS

and you used a flash....

way to push the envelop.. I salute you





Mar 11, 2010 at 09:20 PM
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p.5 #17 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I was near MFD so DOF is very shallow... the focal point is where you see the crystals.

walnutroof wrote:
I am sorry but the images looked soft IMO. I agree with you SteveTuerk.




Mar 11, 2010 at 09:22 PM
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p.5 #18 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


There are many odd phenomena from Web 2.0

"Unboxing" is certainly one of them (to my eyes)

Hope you enjoy the new lens.

gdanmitchell wrote:
Is it just me, or are "unboxing" documentaries sort of a strange thing...




Mar 11, 2010 at 09:28 PM
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p.5 #19 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


radamo wrote:
That is what I thought. ...




(gonna be tricky to not use it as one, be careful!)



Mar 11, 2010 at 09:29 PM
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p.5 #20 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


SoundHound wrote:
Canon says the Mk II has a Flourite element. That alone would justify the price. Many spotting scopes are available in Flourite and non-Flourite versions with approx the same objective size (60-85mm).

It costs at least $600+ more with Flourite. I am unaware of any other, 200mm and under zoom lens, that has a Flourite lens. Canon seems to be the biggest user of Flourite lenses especially for their Great Whites. The dark side doesn't use much (any?) Flourite elements.
And yes, those flower shots will not prompt me to turn in my Mk I for a Mk II.



The EF 70-200 f/4L IS released in Nov. 2006 has one fluorite element: http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/data/telephoto_zoom/2006_ef_70-200_f1.4l_is_usm.html?p=2

EDIT: according to here: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EF-lenses/EF50200mmf3545L/index.htm the old and long discontinued EF 50-200 L had two fluorite elements. The old EF 100-300 f/5.6L also had fluorite. Back in the FD lens era, the 80-200 f/4L and 100-300 f/5.6L also incorporated fluorite.

M Vers wrote:
Nikon uses similar elements over fluorite--'ED' elements.

"...However, fluorite easily cracks and is sensitive to temperature changes that can adversely affect focusing by altering the lens' refractive index. So Nikon designers and engineers put their heads together and came up with ED glass, which offers all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of calcium fluorite-based glass."


So then why does Nikon use seven ED elements in their new 70-200 (five in the old one) yet the new Canon uses one fluorite and five UD elements ('only' 4 UD in the MkI IS)? I think it's a bunch of marketing. What counts is image quality, and it looks like both deliver at a similar price.


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