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Ron Hole
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p.2 #1 · Daytona 500 weekend!


msauk wrote:
There are only 7 days a week, and if you have time to post on this forum I think you could spare a few more helping out others by actually posting more than links to your site.



Commenting and critiquing are only one form or contribution to the forum and I am thankful for the many that do so.

But the sharing of great photographs is another way of contributing. And links to sites, blogs and tutorials created by a pros sharing how the shots came about and what the insiration was behind the shot can be just as importent as telling someone when to use AI-Servo.

This is the second time in probably 2 months that Mark's linking to his blog has come up. I don't understand the issue that Mark does not comment or critique here. He or anyone else is under no obligation to do so whatsoever and it is within the rules to link his blog.

Any one post on his blog I would guess takes a few hours to create so I certainly don't question the time Mark spends helping others, he just helps in a different way.

I hope this thread does not stop either one of you from posting in the future as I enjoy both of your contributions to the forum.

Ron




Feb 19, 2009 at 09:25 AM
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p.2 #2 · Daytona 500 weekend!


msauk wrote:
Hmm, I would have suspected a more mature post but I guess not.

Takes hours and weeks? I spend like 10 minutes every time I come here and just post some critique when i can. I figure that is the most I could do for this great forum that allows me to post my pictures.


Good for you. He doesn't. You can start your own forum, ya know? It's really easy.



Feb 19, 2009 at 09:36 AM
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p.2 #3 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Great photos, great blog, great contribution to this forum. C&C isn't the only purpose of this forum. Mark provides outstanding images and narrative about the images. If you don't want to learn from that then so be it. Is it realistic to expect some of these pros to go through the posts and provide C&C - probably not, but it sounds like these guys do respond to emails when they can. Heck I got wornout just reading about his coverage of Daytona.

It's a shame this thread got hijacked and we may have lost a valued contributer. We should be thankful this forum hasn't turned into a mutual admiration society like some of the other forums here.



Feb 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM
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p.2 #4 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Mark,

Ahem.... now back to the photos...

The last one is my personal favorite. Other than finding some lettering in the shot, it's quite difficult to determine whether it was shot through glass or the reflections off the glass. A beautiful shot never the less.




Feb 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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p.2 #5 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Msauk you 1st disrespect a great Sport Shooter and a favorite of FM, then you try to defend yourself...you should find something else to do, photography has made you into a very insecure and unhappy man.


Feb 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM
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p.2 #6 · Daytona 500 weekend!


msauk,
If you do not know those photographers, look them up. Ian is one of the top Fitness and bodybuilding photographers on the planet, and a member of FM. He posts when he can which is not as often as I would like him to, but if you pick up any fitness magazine out there today, you will find a bunch of his photos. Muls, or Ed Mulholland is the top boxing photographer working today, but he finds the time to post here, a little more than the others. Kurt Jones, one of if not the best surf photographer ever to grace fredmiranda.com ever, but besides still photos, works as a videographer for a CBS prime time show and has very little time with his family let alone FM, but still posts when he can.

What irks me is the fact that we get some of the top photographers in the world posting here and either they are run off by hundreds of questions that overwhelm them and the PM box, or someone who should have just kept their mouth shut says something to piss them off and they leave. When Mark first posted here, I was amazed. I really did not think he had the time to come here, thus my 8 days a week reference. Mark puts in so many hours working each week, that for most of us to even come close to the effort he puts in typically, we would have to have a 8 day work week.

You never have said anyone was less of a photographer, but that is the tone you were setting. An elitist tone that I will not tolerate here. I think you need to re-read your posts before you hit send. Because, obviously, I am not the only one who took offense to what you said. I have been here at FM for 5 years, moderator for 4 years, I have seen members who posted similar posts to what you have posted msauk and not just dropped it and moved on, but held onto that shovel and kept digging until Fred's only option was to ban them. Fred hates banning people, and I hate bringing those people to Fred's attention. But, when a members post start making the forums look poor, that becomes the only option. That is the road I am talking about.

In all honesty your first post on this thread should never have been made. This is not, I repeat, this is not a critique forum. People may post images and ask for critiques, you can give critiques if you want, but it is not required. The Sports Corner is a presentation forum and that is exactly what Mark did, presented his photos. Your second post should have stopped before you got to the word spam. The rest of the posts you made, the hole is getting deeper.



Feb 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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p.2 #7 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Wow. Just wow.

I don't need someone to rip my photos or give C&C to learn something new from them. Just looking at Mark's photos gives me enough advice and a kick in the a** to go out and make better photos...



Matt, you're completely off-base on this one.



Feb 19, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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p.2 #8 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Carl Auer wrote:
msauk,
If you do not know those photographers, look them up. Ian is one of the top Fitness and bodybuilding photographers on the planet, and a member of FM. He posts when he can which is not as often as I would like him to, but if you pick up any fitness magazine out there today, you will find a bunch of his photos. Muls, or Ed Mulholland is the top boxing photographer working today, but he finds the time to post here, a little more than the others. Kurt Jones, one of if not the best surf photographer ever
...Show more


+ 1,baggillion,million.





Feb 19, 2009 at 12:48 PM
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p.2 #9 · Daytona 500 weekend!


msauk wrote:
you know what I would love, is if you really contributed to the forum and help other members. Looking over your posts all I see is posts with your images and nothing more.

Someone with your skill level I am sure others would love to get advice from you instead of just posting images promoting your website.

JMHO, take it for what it is worth.

By the way, great pictures.


Learn from his images, I have.



Feb 19, 2009 at 01:48 PM
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p.2 #10 · Daytona 500 weekend!


I have sent Mark an email to support his cause and membership. There are a lot of jerks out there in a world where we really don't require it ( I am not saying mauak is one). This forum is one of the best supported, has the best members (and I'm including msauk as one of them), the best subjective and scientific information on the net today. If you need help making chicken curry and calibrate your WB, I'll bet someone has the steps and recepies to offer. All you have to do is ask. I would highly reccomend the veterans on this forums and the newbies that appreciate Mark and his awsome work, please send him an email or IM and get him back on our team. Show him our support. Matt, its all good, lets move forward and learn from this. There is only you so far who seems to stand alone on what you meant and what you wrote. I am not quick to judge, just reading what you posted in plain english and my sub-par intelect to iterpret what you meant and continue to defend, is enough for me to have an opinion on the tone and meaning of your opinion and voice. This fourm is about the support for its members, congratulating its members with a pat on the back, not a kick below the belt, because that hurts. And what has transpired from this post has hurt a very valuable member of our team. I hope Mark will take this with a grain of sea salt, and stay original and organic with his contribution. Thanks, and lets move on everyone, If mausk wants to get it, he will, if not....let's move on and continue with what we love to do evey night when we log on....I hope that's going on FM.....right?


Feb 19, 2009 at 02:08 PM
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p.2 #11 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Mark... great series. Like the others, I'm trying to figure out the last shot, which is part of the fun of looking at your photos. Your compositions are always a blast. Keep up the good work! If we should ever cross paths... first Prez is on me!


Feb 19, 2009 at 02:48 PM
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p.2 #12 · Daytona 500 weekend!


P Alesse wrote:
Mark... great series. Like the others, I'm trying to figure out the last shot, which is part of the fun of looking at your photos. Your compositions are always a blast. Keep up the good work! If we should ever cross paths... first Prez is on me!


It's definitely a reflection...I'm guessing there are box seats that have angled glass over top of the bleachers..

edit..no wait...from the podium area back onto the grand stand...



Feb 19, 2009 at 02:53 PM
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p.2 #13 · Daytona 500 weekend!


"A pack of drivers reflect in the media center windows as they race through the tri-oval."

Shot probably from the roof of the grandstand to the media center to get the angle down to the track.



Feb 19, 2009 at 03:13 PM
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p.2 #14 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Looks like it was shot off the glass of the victory lane suites. The building is shown below.

http://scriptunasimages.smugmug.com/photos/475294350_3muj5-M.jpg



Feb 19, 2009 at 03:13 PM
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p.2 #15 · Daytona 500 weekend!


I'm most impressed by the US Airways Airbus in #1. Isn't the plane positioned at about the same angle that the other jet was sitting in the Hudson. Great timing, Mark!




Feb 19, 2009 at 03:24 PM
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p.2 #16 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Jonathan Knight wrote:
Wow. Just wow.

I don't need someone to rip my photos or give C&C to learn something new from them. Just looking at Mark's photos gives me enough advice and a kick in the a** to go out and make better photos...

Matt, you're completely off-base on this one.


Couldn't have said it better myself!

I know I'm a noob on FM, but I just spent all evening browsing through Mark's blog, half inspired but the great photography ... and half depressed because in comparison I merely take snapshots!
Yet by browsing through his blog ... guess what? I still learned a lot (both from the pics and description) and do look forward to practicing it at my next event!



Feb 19, 2009 at 03:41 PM
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p.2 #17 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Matt has just as much right to his opinion as all the fan boys here do. If you disagree, fine, but threatening to boot him off the board for his opinion isn't right either. There's a reason for the PM function too. Sure, a little more tact could have been given, but oh well. I'm of a neutral opinion on the whole matter as I see both sides here. Yes I can read the rules.

With that said......

Fantastic stuff! Def. different and inspiring. I enjoyed the blog also

Edited on Feb 19, 2009 at 07:57 PM · View previous versions



Feb 19, 2009 at 06:57 PM
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p.2 #18 · Daytona 500 weekend!


<<scribbles a few notes to self.....'sounds like I need to upload a bunch of hotttt cheer and dance babe photos to shift the mood of the board elsewhere...get on it'>>


Feb 19, 2009 at 07:27 PM
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p.2 #19 · Daytona 500 weekend!


Dang........this is turning into a train wreck

Reminds me of what happened to me a few months into my FM experience.

Due partly to inexperience (this is the first forum I ever participated in) but mostly to being hard headed and opinionated, I found myself in a couple drawn out pissing matches. In fact it was shortly after one of these exchange of ideas that Carl's sticky appeared at the top of the page. I didn't make any friends and noticed a distinct cold shoulder from some of the more prominent members afterwards that I feel, to some extent, is still here today.

Matt is getting a pretty good piling on here but I'm not going to judge Matt on this isolated incident. Based on his previous posts and his attitude in general I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and keeping him on my "Good Guy List".

My only words of wisdom to you Matt are to ask youself what every man who has ever been married more than thirty minutes has asked himself.........."Do I want to win an argument if it means sleeping on the couch?"

Most of the time the answer is no.........

Thanks,
Marty

Oh yeah, Mark.........It wouldn't kill ya to tell someone to shoot tight, crop tighter, watch your backgrounds and horizons and above all don't give any pictures away at least once in a while.




Feb 19, 2009 at 07:30 PM
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p.2 #20 · Daytona 500 weekend!


indyjones wrote:
<<scribbles a few notes to self.....'sounds like I need to upload a bunch of hotttt cheer and dance babe photos to shift the mood of the board elsewhere...get on it'>>



I like the way you think.



Feb 19, 2009 at 08:36 PM
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