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Archive 2009 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2

  
 
JimBuchanan
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p.3 #1 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Hey, pdmphoto, have you tried this one?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3295869179_3e1997bda8_o.jpg
This is something of a teaser, as I haven't got it all back together, yet.

The FD 50/1.2 L is supposed to have better close range performance due to the Canon version of floating elements. The EF 50L does not have this feature. Superior performance of the FD version should include better contrast and sharpness, in the close range and the lack of focus shift. Focus shift could be the bug-a-boo of the EF 50L, in AFing at smaller than wide open/1.2.

I look forward to finding out...



Feb 20, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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p.3 #2 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


The Canon 55/1.2 AL SSC is supposed to be the best 50-ish lens Canon has ever made. If my memory serves me right, it is supposed to resolve 300-400 lp/mm at wide open in the image center. Also this is the only Canon lens with a "golden ring":
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3298021075_44891ccb5c_o.jpg



Feb 21, 2009 at 06:34 PM
JimBuchanan
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p.3 #3 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


That 55 aspherical is certainly a beautiful lens.

Erwin Puts takes about this lens and the later FD50L. The FD50L being not really any different or negligible improvement in performance over the 55 aspherical. Further, any improvements were negated by the shorter 50mm focal length, which apparently is harder to correct over the 55.

My choice of the FD 50L, was because it only weights less than 400g., and because the 55 aspherical is more a collectors item (more expensive). Its nerve racking enough with the semi-collectible FD50L.

Shown is the newly fabricated rear element holder. The piece has M42 threads and screws into the threads of the bayonet back, for easy positioning relative to the main lens group.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3576/3298088005_7229e9438b_o.jpg



Feb 21, 2009 at 07:04 PM
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p.3 #4 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


You missed the Rolls Royce...the 58mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor (Nikon). But it is expensive if you can find it.


Feb 21, 2009 at 07:15 PM
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p.3 #5 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


JimBuchanan, any idea if the FD50L might be full-frame safe? from your photo, it looks like the rear element is reasonably far back into the adapter at 2m focus, so it might still be well inside the flange at infinity?


Feb 21, 2009 at 07:16 PM
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p.3 #6 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Jim as you probably know, i have converted this fd 50 1.2L
http://forum.cogitech.ca/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36

and i use it with canon 5D (in order to get infinity you have to shave mirror). It is very good performer in terms of sharpness and contrast and flare wideopen, but what i personally dislike about this lense - in certain light condition you get the strong aspherical onion like rings - it is just like ef 50mm f1.0. Soon you will find out by yourself.

all wideopen
Here is EF 50mm f1.0L
http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/50mm/bokeh/50LM_01.0.jpg]

and EF 50 1.2L
http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/50mm_1.2L/bokeh/full/1.2_1.2L_XB6M0520.JPG]

EF 85 1.2L I
http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/85mm/bokeh_2/1.2LI/1.2I_1.2.jpg]

EF 85 1.2L II
http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/85mm/bokeh_2/1.2LII/1.2II_1.2.jpg]



Feb 21, 2009 at 07:36 PM
JimBuchanan
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p.3 #7 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Dim.ka_ says, 5D mirror interference. I don't know, yet, but I am not optimistic. I did remove the female threads of the original rear element holder and mounted it in a new smaller diameter holder, but I don't think that will help.

Interesting OOF onion rings. This reminds me of the intrafocus and extrafocus rings of telescope testing.



Feb 21, 2009 at 08:12 PM
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p.3 #8 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


i know another one lense with such character - it is new sigma 50 1.4 HSM
http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/or/198779/401396.jpg]
I quess it is related how the aspherical element was created - whether it was moulded in asph pressform or something and/or just machined polished or hand polished (i have not seen this with Nikon 58 1.2 noct nikkor or leica noctilux and other Leica asph - may be someone can say more in this regard). In this case fd 55 1.2 ssc Al asph might be better as it was hand polished, as i know.
But with Canon this character presented in fd 24 1.4 ssc asph/ fd 85 1.2L / fd 85 1.2 ssc asph but it is not that bad as with fd 50 1.2L



Feb 21, 2009 at 08:47 PM
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p.3 #9 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


In general here is very good info about high speed lenses
http://www.imx.nl/photo/technique/technique/hslenses.html



Feb 22, 2009 at 05:55 PM
JimBuchanan
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p.3 #10 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Dim.ka_ wrote:
In general here is very good info about high speed lenses
http://www.imx.nl/photo/technique/technique/hslenses.html


Ha!, you beat me to it.

If E. Puts, mentions a brand other than Leica, somethings up.



Feb 22, 2009 at 06:13 PM
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p.3 #11 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Hello JimBuchanan and Dim.ka_ thank you for adding info on Canon Lens too. I really envy your ability(time) to modify lens.


Feb 23, 2009 at 08:47 AM
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p.3 #12 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Got a Zuiko 55mm f1.2 today for testing on my 5DMK2. See examples here, all shoots @1.2 and for download full res

Zuiko55



Feb 24, 2009 at 02:37 PM
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p.3 #13 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


cavewalker wrote:
Got a Zuiko 55mm f1.2 today for testing on my 5DMK2. See examples here, all shoots @1.2 and for download full res

Zuiko55


It has a very particular bokeh. And Nice Images..
Thank you.



Feb 25, 2009 at 07:11 AM
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p.3 #14 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


The EF50/1.2L is based on modern machinery and design. It should be an improvement over the FD55/1.2 AL SSC. However, it has focus shift problem. Too bad.


Feb 25, 2009 at 07:15 AM
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p.3 #15 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


marc_remill wrote:
It has a very particular bokeh. And Nice Images..
Thank you.

Thx
guess i'll buy that lens...



Feb 25, 2009 at 02:11 PM
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p.3 #16 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Bowen Lake Park in July 30, 2022
Used Sony A7R2
Good sharpness and moderate chromatic aberration





Rokinon SP 50mm F1.2




Jul 30, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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p.3 #17 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


phuang3 wrote:
The EF50/1.2L is based on modern machinery and design. It should be an improvement over the FD55/1.2 AL SSC. However, it has focus shift problem. Too bad.


I've had the EF 50/1.2 L for about ten years. It produces beautiful results. I generally shoot it f/1.2 to f/1.8, and f/8 to /11. Never had a problem with focus shift.



Jul 30, 2022 at 11:50 AM
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p.3 #18 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


Milliken Park in August 19, 2022
Used Pentax K 50mm F1.2 (bit too sharp) with Nikon Z5
last one is taken at F1.2





Pentax K 50mm F1.2







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Aug 19, 2022 at 10:47 AM
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p.3 #19 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


I still have my Canon 55 1.2 aspherical. Great lens..

The Voigtlander 50 1.2 is a real gem.



Aug 19, 2022 at 11:19 AM
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p.3 #20 · Which is the best 50mm f1.2


airfrogusmc wrote:
I still have my Canon 55 1.2 aspherical. Great lens..

The Voigtlander 50 1.2 is a real gem.


I agree. I really liked my Canon 55 f/1.2 Aspherical, but I sold it because I liked the Voigtlander even better. I had the Minolta Rocker 58 f/1.2 before the Canon and it was a very nice lens too. This is an old thread revived after about 10 years. There are all sorts of very big very well corrected 50 f/1.2 lenses now, but I still like the older (and much smaller) double gauss type designs. I hardly use any of them now, however, as my favorite lens is my Leica 50 f/1.4 Aspherical. I know this thread is about f/1.2 lenses, but I just like the 50 lux aspherical better than any of the f/1.2 lenses I have used even though they are quite nice lenses in their own right.



Aug 19, 2022 at 11:30 AM
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