patrickphoto wrote:
All opinions on this post are not important. The only fact that matters is:
if you are a professional, you use a backup when a main fails. So, when your 5d fails, you use the lenses, flash, memory, and skills, options, that you had with 5d on another body. If you want something smaller, grab a XT for 450 new, and get the weight down to what you want retaining the ability to use majority of accessories.
I dont get it . Molson asked for the G10 ( I believe) because it is "smaller" as well! If you are going with a back up DSLR, why would you go with a lesser body? Get the same and have two! The point of the back up is to keep you shooting, not to handicap your ability with lesser tools.
However, if the backup is for situations where you do not NEED (or can't have) a DSLR, then the opinions here are valuable I think.
In my arsenal, the only thing my G9 backs up is my SD550. The G series cameras are a great idea; too bad they are a total PITA to use as a true DSLR backup. Don't waste your time or $$.
Gary Petersen wrote:
I think it was on LL they couldn't see a difference on a 13" x 19" print taken with the G-10 and the $40K Hassy. Seems like it would be a good camera for just bumming around.
dasrocket wrote:
I dont get it . Molson asked for the G10 ( I believe) because it is "smaller" as well! If you are going with a back up DSLR, why would you go with a lesser body? Get the same and have two! The point of the back up is to keep you shooting, not to handicap your ability with lesser tools.
However, if the backup is for situations where you do not NEED (or can't have) a DSLR, then the opinions here are valuable I think.
Read my first posts: I state that the only correct backup is the same device. I only pose the rebel because functionally it is similar, mount, flash, manual, av, tv, p, etc.
The G10 is a fine little camera, in good light. At ISO 1600, however, it struggles to produce decent 4x6 prints. At ISO 200-400 you can get to 10x8. At ISO 80 it is pretty well indistinguishable from anything out there up to at least 13x19 ... I haven't tried anything larger. It may not fit in a jacket pocket without pulling the jacket out of shape, but I regularly stick mine in a pants pocket. Whther it is OK for backup depends entirely on what you are shooting, and in what sort of light, and what sort of results yiou need.
Read my first posts: I state that the only correct backup is the same device. I only pose the rebel because functionally it is similar, mount, flash, manual, av, tv, p, etc.
I'm happy with my G10 and use it as a backup for the 5d mark ii. As much as I'd love to carry my full rig around everywhere 24 hours a day, it's nice to pack a small camera and have it fit in a coat pocket. It is what it is - it's a $450 advanced point and shoot, not a 1D body with L glass.
So if the 5D fails 30 secs into a paid gig then you're happy to cover the entire event with a P&S? And you don't think that would reflect on you in the least?
It's not all about results, it's also about perception, even if you can live with considerable operational limitations.
i have a 1D mark 2 and a G9. the G9 put out some good images for family and walking around and in good conditions the files are really nice. If i were getting paid to take images i would not consider using it over a SLR because the optical view finder is not accurate (at least on the G9) and holding it out to properly crop can be a problem in certain lighting conditions.
But heck buy it take it on your paid gigs and make movies as a value added service
molson wrote:
Not all of us are that insecure about our work...
You've missed the point entirely there. It's not about what you think, it's about your client. If they feel you've short-changed them, or they feel you're not being professional in your approach it will most likely colour their opinion of your work. What you think of your work is rarely the point.
Lord Fluff wrote:
So if the 5D fails 30 secs into a paid gig then you're happy to cover the entire event with a P&S? And you don't think that would reflect on you in the least?
It's not all about results, it's also about perception, even if you can live with considerable operational limitations.
I wouldn't doubt that if I were a professional and made my living being a shutterpresser, shooting an event with the G10 would reflect poorly upon myself. If you make your living off of photography, you need to invest in a good backup solution. I'm just a hobbyist so if my 5D failed, I'd be upset but I'd be happy that I had a backup camera to use. Plus, there's something to be said about being able to put this in a jacket pocket.
Lord Fluff wrote:
You've missed the point entirely there. It's not about what you think, it's about your client. If they feel you've short-changed them, or they feel you're not being professional in your approach it will most likely colour their opinion of your work. What you think of your work is rarely the point.
Since the client won't know what camera I shot the images with, it's only the results that will colour their opinion of my work...
molson wrote:
We all know it's a poor craftsman who blames his tools... don't we?
Sounds like you decided already. I guess for you to be making this decision that you're only shooting professionally very rarely, or you'd just keep the 40D anyway. Lots of pros don't like the compromises in moving down from a 1 series to anything else - so if you're not bothered by the prospect of compromising on your entire lens line up, controls, DOF, AF, then hey, why not?
Looked at another way - if you're so confident in your skills that you can get equally professional results with a G10 - why not just buy two and sell all your other gear?
Sorry, I'm a little late to the show on this one. My normal set-up is a 1DMkIII with a 24-70 and a 1DMkIII with 70-200 2.8 with the Canon G10 in my belt bag as a final back-up.
Someone else mentioned it before, but the Panasonic LX-3 looks like a lot better option, with an f/2 lens and 24mm wideangle, as well as comparable or better high ISO and easy to use manual mode.
alanS wrote:
Since you will not be seen ( scratch wedding photographer) i am curious what "paid" event you are comfortable covering with a P&S.
None. Where did you get the silly idea that I shoot "events"?
That's the problem with asking questions on a forum like this I guess... few people actually bother to read the question, let alone understand it, before offering responses.
. Molson asked for the G10 ( I believe) because it is "smaller" as well! If you are going with a back up DSLR, why would you go with a lesser body? Get the same and have two! The point of the back up is to keep you shooting, not to handicap your ability with lesser tools. 