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Archive 2009 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?

  
 
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droopy1592 wrote:
2nd hand 5d is not a bad idea... i just wish there was another zoom lens (24-70) that wasn't so damn expensive. I'm hoping that the new Sigma HSM 24-70 is decent. If the tamron 28-75 f/2.8 was sharper wide open it could be an option.


I have found the Tamron to be sharper than the L wide open.



Jan 07, 2009 at 09:46 PM
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DAWEI YE:
Nice photos...but....I'm just wondering:
Since you are using flash, why did you shoot wide open and at ISO 800?
I thought the idea with this super-fast lens was to use it wide open without flash.
If one uses flash anyways, why not use a lower ISO for less noise & better and higher image quality?
I'm sure you have your good reasons.

just curious....



Jan 07, 2009 at 11:34 PM
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p.2 #3 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?


I can almost see bobbytan's model's image coming....get ready.


Jan 07, 2009 at 11:42 PM
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winman3 wrote:
DAWEI YE:
Nice photos...but....I'm just wondering:
Since you are using flash, why did you shoot wide open and at ISO 800?
I thought the idea with this super-fast lens was to use it wide open without flash.
If one uses flash anyways, why not use a lower ISO for less noise & better and higher image quality?
I'm sure you have your good reasons.

just curious....


the 85L is good wide open without flash, and it is also good stopped down... without flash! In fact, the 85L is good at just about any aperture and with just about any light!

(unless you use a crop body... then it's no good! )



Jan 07, 2009 at 11:51 PM
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p.2 #5 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?


winman3 wrote:
DAWEI YE:
Nice photos...but....I'm just wondering:
Since you are using flash, why did you shoot wide open and at ISO 800?
I thought the idea with this super-fast lens was to use it wide open without flash.
If one uses flash anyways, why not use a lower ISO for less noise & better and higher image quality?
I'm sure you have your good reasons.

just curious....


winman3: I found that the flash cleaned up the shots a bit, the no flash shots were a little grungy and a bit flat...I felt the flash gave the images more pop. I would post up the no flash shots but they look even worse, quite embarrassing

I think Joe Zasada makes a good point but my skill hasn't allowed me to get the full potential of the 85LII using just nature light yet

Also the higher ISO allowed more of the ambient light to bleed in, I was tempted to go ISO 1600, and I should have because many shots were ruined by motion blur at 1/125 (I was photographing very quickly, and I'm not very good at handholding) Luckily I took a lot of images to compensate



Jan 08, 2009 at 06:10 AM
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p.2 #6 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?


Fred Relaix wrote:
Personally, I would also consider a 2d option : For the cost of the 85/1.2, you could get a second hand 5D and (almost) a 135L. IMHO, The IQ and extra stop you get in ISO with the 5D is worth it. You would still have the 85/1.8 which is great on the 5D, and the 135L would give you the a similar DOF and perspective on the 5D then the 85L on a 40D.


This is the exact route I took when I asked a similar question several months ago. Sold my 85L and now use the 85/1.8 and 135L on my 5D. I love these lenses so much more on FF.



Jan 08, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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p.2 #7 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?


It makes great portraits on all sensors, however, for dynamic settings like weddings, the AF is atrocious.


Jan 08, 2009 at 11:00 AM
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p.2 #8 · 85mm f/1.2 mkii worth it on a crop body?


droopy1592 wrote:
Thanks for the shots Dawei.

I already have the 85 f/1.8 and 135 f/2 (for outside and street shots)... don't know if I should keep those or give them up and go for the 85mm f/1.2

Decisions...


It is actually quite easy, just takes a little patience.

- stick to the 5D2 plan (or get a 5D instead)
- certainly keep the 135/2
- last replace 85/1.8 if you still feel the urge.

Although the 85/1.8 is very good, and exceptionally good value for money, the 85/1.2 is unique*.

But think carefully about this uniqueness and how it will fit in with your technique, style and need.

I find both 85/1.2 and 135/2 a pleasure to use and do so frequently and about equally.

Ruy


*yes, just a word, not backing it up...



Jan 08, 2009 at 03:09 PM
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