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you know - the website they put up is really cumbersome, and I looked only at a few pics because of that. Most seemed rather mediocre from a photographic aspect but may be very pertinent from a natural history point of view, i.e. rare species, difficult to observe behaviors, etc. Otherwise, the animal pics I've seen on FM forums and such seem way better in terms of framing, exposure, contrast etc...


Jan 07, 2009 at 12:41 AM
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But in this case, the winning shot just isn't that good an image. And more to the point, Steve Winter had 3 other Snow Leopard pictures in the competition that "only" received special commendations - all of which were much better than his winning shot (IMHO). The other 3 images (and the text accompanying them in the book) show that the thought process of composing an image and setting up a remote trigger to detect the animal at the right point in that image is very similar to taking the image while being there - in fact, arguably more difficult
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Andy, I agree with your last couple sentences (as for which is the best photo... that's a subjective call).

In answer to the naysayers (at the risk of wasting my time writing this lengthy comment): I would say, based on limited experience setting up remote cameras for sports, that it does involve a great deal more forethought and previsualization (creativity) than actually being there and reacting to a situation unfold in front of you. There are a lot of variables to take into consideration and technical challenges to overcome. I think there are some parallels between Winter's remote photos and those by the very skilled sports photographers at Sports Illustrated (and elsewhere) capturing otherwise difficult to achieve images using remote cameras on a regular basis. Take, for example, perhaps one of the best story-telling sports photos of 2008 - the underwater remote camera shot by SI's Heinz Kluetmeier of Michael Phelps beating Milorad Cavic by 0.01 seconds for gold at the Olympics.

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I've covered a FINA world championship at which Kluetmeier and his assistant had remotes and saw the great amount of trial and error that went into setting up the cameras. But that's sports, where the athletes are in a relatively controlled environment and the photographer has a pretty good idea of where they'll be at a given moment. Winter steps this up exponentially by capturing an unpredictable wild animal in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure he had to do a lot of research to figure out what areas the cats visit, etc. But aren't these the signs of a great photographer? One who can successfully marry technical concepts beyond the capabilities of most aspiring photographers AND combine such proficiency with a supreme understanding of what is being photographed, whether it's swimmers or extremely rare, reclusive cats, AND bring back the goods! I suspect there's a very good reason Winter was on assignment for NG. How many of us can say we've had that opportunity, let alone the necessary talent?

As for the "winning" photo. I haven't read the rules or judging criteria, but my guess is it's a subjective mix of artistic value (which I believe it has) combined with factors such as degree of difficulty, rarity of the animal, wild vs. captive or habituated, natural habitat, etc., and the story-telling value of the image. IMO, the image has all the right elements for that animal - snow, natural environment, at night when it's probably active and tells me something about it, something that I suspect is often forgotten in the quest for the ultimate technically perfect, yet all too often boring animal photo. For the naysayers, please tell me how it would be possible to capture such an image, one that tells a story about wild snow leopards, in person rather than with remotes. I suspect it's virtually impossible to entice a wild cat to come that close to a human. Winter's NG gallery contains one image of a cat not captured with a remote camera, the one of it disappearing over a distant ridge.

I also want to comment about the apparent concern that abstract images may be getting too much recognition in contests, etc. There is a logical explanation for this. It has gotten much easier for the average photographer to produce images of a high technical quality in the last number of years. As a result, there is an ever growing number of such images posted everywhere, to the point of saturation. Abstract images are a reaction to this. An attempt to create something imperfect and unique that hasn't been seen before. Something which conveys some sort of added emotion to the viewer.

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Jan 07, 2009 at 04:40 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Well I've been pretty stupefied by 3 of the last 4 winners including last years. There was one a few ago of a blurry flock of starlings or something that won I couldn't believe. I think the 2008 winner is much better but not remotely in the same league as many of the other shots I've seen. I'm sure behind the scenes it's all getting rather political a bit like the Nobel prize awards which rarely go to those most worthy these days.


Pixel Perfect: clever use of "remote" to comment on Winter's photo.

pipspeak wrote:
I always cringe when these discussions descend into subjective analyses of what makes a good photo. We all see something different. Personally I'm in the camp of "it's the impact of the image that counts, not the technical quality of the shot". That, IMO is how photos should be judged. I couldn't care less if something is not pixel-perfect, as long as the image jumps out and grabs me.


pipspeak: clever use of "pixel-perfect" after Pixel Perfect's comment... lol.



Jan 07, 2009 at 04:44 AM
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One thing I've learnt is that things are usually simpler than people made them out to be. I can understand the reason though, usually it's to increase the value of their skill/profession.

As for setting up the rig for that winning image. Again, he used a 16mm wide angle focal length which means he would've had plenty of area coverage in front of the camera.

BTW, talent doesn't make people good at something, it just helps them learn faster. The rest is hard work.



Jan 07, 2009 at 05:07 AM
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n0b0 wrote:
One thing I've learnt is that things are usually simpler than people made them out to be. I can understand the reason though, usually it's to increase the value of their skill/profession.

Again, he used a 16mm wide angle focal length which means he would've had plenty of area coverage in front of the camera.


You may want to look at this from a different perspective. If you intend to shoot up close to an animal or person, you'll want a wide angle lens, as already explained by other winning photographers.

You really make it sound as though you've been shooting technically perfect and artistically pleasing wildlife shots for a long while, and have nearly, if not already, perfected the art, whether the location is deep in some rain-forest or in some snow covered mountain top. Care to share some of those great and winning photos? I'm sure we'll all be awed.



Jan 07, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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thw2 wrote:
You may want to look at this from a different perspective. If you intend to shoot up close to an animal or person, you'll want a wide angle lens, as already explained by other winning photographers.


Close up of a person? you mean like portrait? with a wide angle lens? really?

C'mon mate... Wide angle + motion sensor, the reason should be pretty obvious... even to you. Besides, that winning shot doesn't look like it was shot up close, more like cropped.

thw2 wrote:
You really make it sound as though you've been shooting technically perfect and artistically pleasing wildlife shots for a long while, and have nearly, if not already, perfected the art, whether the location is deep in some rain-forest or in some snow covered mountain top. Care to share some of those great and winning photos? I'm sure we'll all be awed.


No, I don't have any "great and winning" wildlife photos, but I'm willing to bet the technicians who set up the local speed cameras aren't photographers of the year either.



Jan 07, 2009 at 02:15 PM
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Well at least i pressed the button myself :-p


http://www.exiges.eu/robin/robin4.jpg





Jan 07, 2009 at 06:37 PM
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hows this how many night time shots of this critter have we seen? if it was so easy the traditional anal way then where are all the shots to make this capture less qualified to be a winning shot


Jan 07, 2009 at 07:19 PM
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digitalbug30d wrote:
hows this how many night time shots of this critter have we seen? if it was so easy the traditional anal way then where are all the shots to make this capture less qualified to be a winning shot


Maybe not easy, but novel and that's why it won.



Jan 07, 2009 at 08:45 PM
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The snow Leopard should never have won! IMHO! If we all had all the time and money in the world we could all set up traps and hope for the best why we lounged by the pool!

To me photography is about being there, feeling it and experiancing that magical moment in time! Yes you have a wonderful picture to show your friends and family but they will never really appreciate the true value of what you witnessed! I cannot believe the person who got the leopard shot really enjoyed it as they were not there, they did not see it!!



Jan 08, 2009 at 08:54 AM
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Well said, Steven.

God forbid the day ever arrives when sitting in the house and waiting for an automated email to arrive to tell me that one of my remote "security cameras" has been triggered, becomes the norm for wildlife photography...

One of the most important (and satisfying) skills in wildlife work is the fieldcraft needed to put the photographer within range of a wild creature - this is an absolutely essential part of the make-up of any good wildlife image.

Setting up remote traps on trails possibly used by a critter and hoping for the best is nothing whatsoever to do with that.

This remote camera bollocks has less relevance to "wildlife photography" than a trip to the zoo.

In fact, it's hardly different to someone deciding to get their family portaits done, not by a professional photographer, but by one of those instant passport photo kiosks.



Jan 08, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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Someone should take a cleverly disguised photo at the zoo and submit it. I'd laugh it it got shortlisted


Jan 08, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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TooManyShots wrote:
Hehehehe......try a UWA lens to photograph a bird in flight...or other bird perching on a tree... Show me if gears aren't important....


Here's a nice UWA bird in flight...

http://flickr.com/photos/carthorse/3079983841/

Note: It's not my shot, I found it on flickr...



Jan 08, 2009 at 12:44 PM
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I would argue that, all technical aspects (I'll agree with those who say a remote shot probably shouldn't qualify for a competition this important) and Winter's skill as a photographer (and he has some amazing shots, don't get me wrong) aside, what matters is whether this is a good wildlife picture (the best in fact), and i would probably say no. I think the only reason the picture did so well is that it is a snow leopard. If you were to take the exact picture, and substitute any other cat (say a lion) for the snow leopard, would it be a good picture? Honestly for me, if i took that shot with a lion in it, it probably would have wound up in the recycle bin. Now, does the fact it's a snow leopard make the picture a winning image? I'll leave that open, but apparently some people think so


Jan 08, 2009 at 12:58 PM
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keithreeder wrote:
Well said, Steven.

God forbid the day ever arrives when sitting in the house and waiting for an automated email to arrive to tell me that one of my remote "security cameras" has been triggered, becomes the norm for wildlife photography...

One of the most important (and satisfying) skills in wildlife work is the fieldcraft needed to put the photographer within range of a wild creature - this is an absolutely essential part of the make-up of any good wildlife image.

Setting up remote traps on trails possibly used by a critter and hoping for the best is nothing whatsoever to do with
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Ever heard of Eric Hosking Keith? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Hosking

He was a pioneer of bird photography and frequently used "remote trips" to get fabulous shots of owls with what would now be called "primitive equipment".

Colin



Jan 08, 2009 at 01:27 PM
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mrd08 wrote:

Well at least i pressed the button myself :-p


http://www.exiges.eu/robin/robin4.jpg




Yes, but if the Robin had done it he might have got the exposure and white balance correct and possibly even made a better stab at "levels", "curves" and "unsharp mask"!!

Colin



Jan 08, 2009 at 01:39 PM
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UMpg wrote:
I would argue that, all technical aspects (I'll agree with those who say a remote shot probably shouldn't qualify for a competition this important) and Winter's skill as a photographer (and he has some amazing shots, don't get me wrong) aside, what matters is whether this is a good wildlife picture (the best in fact), and i would probably say no. I think the only reason the picture did so well is that it is a snow leopard. If you were to take the exact picture, and substitute any other cat (say a lion) for the snow leopard, would it
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A lot of sense in what you say here. As others have stated, we do not really know what is being judged here - image impact, image quality, photographer's field skills, use of equipment, etc.

Maybe (again as others have stated) we put too much emphasis on Wildlife "Photographer" rather then Wildlife "Photograph", or vice versa?

I presume that if someone had captured a a convincing image of an Ivory-billed Woodpecker on a camera phone, he or she would have won?

Anything can be criticised, and usually is.

Colin



Jan 08, 2009 at 01:51 PM
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UMpg wrote:
[...] Now, does the fact it's a snow leopard make the picture a winning image? I'll leave that open, but apparently some people think so


I believe that the accolade of wildlife photographer of the year should go to someone who is able to get an image that few others have been/are able to capture. In this case he was able to get an image because of the elusive nature of the subject in the wild. Others get this accolade by offering a unique or interesting perspective on a subject. Passing judgement that one is 'better' or more valuable or more deserving to win than the other seems a little arrogant to me.



Jan 08, 2009 at 02:21 PM
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Check out MSNBC's 2008 Photos of the Year:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28432998#28432998

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28432998#28430579




Jan 08, 2009 at 02:32 PM
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thedigitalbean wrote:
I believe that the accolade of wildlife photographer of the year should go to someone who is able to get an image that few others have been/are able to capture. In this case he was able to get an image because of the elusive nature of the subject in the wild. Others get this accolade by offering a unique or interesting perspective on a subject. Passing judgement that one is 'better' or more valuable or more deserving to win than the other seems a little arrogant to me.



Fully agree with you - too many "sour grapes" in this thread.

Colin



Jan 08, 2009 at 03:07 PM
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