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dave chilvers
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The Voigt arrived

What a well made lens, silky smooth and feels like it`s carved from solid. clever lens hood/ close up lens holder. With the close up lens on the focus is between 0.45Mtr- 0.25Mtr (very handy to have in your pocket), standard close focus without the CU lens is 0.38Mtr- infinity.
Because of the Christmas post it was dark before the postman arrived so only a few indoor shots but they look quite promising. Certainly makes my 1dsmk2/3 a camera that can be slipped into a light (non photographic) canvas shoulder bag.
I`m glad I went down this road rather than sourcing a 5D because although the 5D would be light it would still stick out in a bag with anything but this lens attached.

No problems on the mk2 and mk3 and even on the 450D the exposure looks good where it would be a short tele lens. Everything seems in line and flush to the adapter on the rear where ever the lens is focussed to.

I`ll check out infinity focus properly in the light but it looks like it will go just a tad beyond infinity when trying to focus on the moon behind fast moving clouds.(this is with everything cold) this could be the adapter I suppose but correct me if I`m wrong but your better to have(like most Canon lenses) a touch past infinity rather than not being able to get to infinity?? then at least you can focus on the distance.

Dave



Dec 11, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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dave chilvers wrote:
The Voigt arrived

What a well made lens, silky smooth and feels like it`s carved from solid. clever lens hood/ close up lens holder. With the close up lens on the focus is between 0.45Mtr- 0.25Mtr (very handy to have in your pocket), standard close focus without the CU lens is 0.38Mtr- infinity.
Because of the Christmas post it was dark before the postman arrived so only a few indoor shots but they look quite promising. Certainly makes my 1dsmk2/3 a camera that can be slipped into a light (non photographic) canvas shoulder bag.
I`m glad I went down this
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A touch past infinity won't cost you anything beyond a touch of close focusing on this lens since it doesn't use anything resembling floating elements.



Dec 11, 2008 at 01:59 PM
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Is a Rebel (450?) significantly smaller than a 5D? The 5D is not a small camera.

Another option in the discussion is the C/Y 50 1.7. Should have nicer characteristics than the tessar, which is a minimal design?

Dave, is the Ultron a lens currently in production?



Dec 11, 2008 at 03:03 PM
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dcmiller wrote:
Is a Rebel (450?) significantly smaller than a 5D? The 5D is not a small camera.

Another option in the discussion is the C/Y 50 1.7. Should have nicer characteristics than the tessar, which is a minimal design?

Dave, is the Ultron a lens currently in production?


The Rebel's are MUCH smaller than a 5D, they're marginally larger than the Oly E-420. Frankly, if you just want a pancake/small body combo the Nikon D40 or D60 is probably a better choice than a Rebel, since you get full lens function with the Ultron (which is a CPU lens). If you intend to use other lenses then the Rebel's are better. Either way you're buying SD cards and a new battery type.

The Ultron SLII is current production from Voigtlander (The only other current production Voigtlander SLR lens is the Nokton 58/1.4 SLII)



Dec 11, 2008 at 03:19 PM
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A nikon with ultron would have to be the d700. I can't use a short telephoto a my walkabout. I just don't see that narrow.

i have been experimenting with 450D and canon 24 f2.8 as a light walkabout. Frankly, it absolutely rocks. I found the lens languishing on display at an airport with 4 years of dust on it, boxes lost, and discounted. Often i can't tell if i was using the ef-s 24 or the zeiss 21. It's easy to form the opinion that cheap canon glass generally sucks, and it's not always true. The cheap 24 is very usable and makes a nice 38.4mm lens on aps-c. af works great, and green square mode too, when you don't want to think about photography. It's smaller and lighter than a 5D with Oly 40, and very nearly as good. I just discovered that i can load custom profiles into the 450d too. Bargain.



Dec 11, 2008 at 03:48 PM
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brainiac wrote:
..........experimenting with 450D and canon 24 f2.8 as a light walkabout. .....


Which 24mm (you are talking about)... I have tried many light cheap lenses (manual focus), but most of the near- pancake in 35mm formats are pretty tele on APS-C format. I havent bought tried any expensive pancake like Oly, Pentax or CZ.. but normal (small) 50mm like oly & Nikon 50/1.8, Petri 45/2.8 and Industar 50mm f3.5 (good for camera cap... but horrible focus plane curvature).

Small 24mm and/or 28mm are worth trying for light weight traveling lens... I found Tamron 28mm f2.5 AD-2 lens and Takumar 35mm f3,5 pretty small lenses (although Takumar is slow for most of the low light situations like airport or restaurant)...



Dec 11, 2008 at 04:04 PM
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p.2 #7 · Contax 45 2.8 pancake lens


For the price of an inexpensive lens:

SD790

These things are cool.



Dec 11, 2008 at 04:39 PM
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dcmiller wrote:
For the price of an inexpensive lens:

SD790

These things are cool.


If I can use (on these beauties) the lenses kept in a shoulder bag ...



Dec 11, 2008 at 05:06 PM
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The Tamron Adaptall 25mm f2.5 is actually a relatively low price option and the colors and sharpness are very good for a lens this cheap and compact..... may be worth trying out .... compared to forking over the $$$'s for the contax or the OM lens.

The Tamron 25mm f2.5 goes for around $100 used - if you find a brand new copy, it's probably around $150 - well worth the price - especially on full frame.



Dec 11, 2008 at 05:54 PM
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brainiac wrote:
i have been experimenting with 450D and canon 24 f2.8 as a light walkabout. Frankly, it absolutely rocks.


My lightweight solution is a 450D/XSi and late Minolta 28/2.0, giving about a 46mm equivalent FOV.



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:01 PM
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pascal03 wrote:
The Tamron Adaptall 25mm f2.5 is actually a relatively low price option....................

The Tamron 25mm f2.5 goes for around $100 used - if you find a brand new copy, it's probably around $150 - well worth the price - especially on full frame.


Are you talking about 28mm or 24mm... never heard about 25mm lens from Tamron.. but again, I may be wrong...



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:07 PM
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There's a number of small 28's that are quite good on crop bodies. Any of Nikon's 28's other than the E or original AF, The Oly 28's of course, the Tamron Adaptall-2 28/2.5, the Pentax SMC 28/2.8 A (and later) as well as their earlier 28/2.5's (SMC Tak or later). 24's are usually quite good as well.

A great walk-around lens for a compact kit is Nikon's 20/2.8 AF/AF-D. It's extremely compact for a 20 (4cm long, just over 62mm in diameter).

Remember, it just needs to be sharp in Zone A and B for great performance on crop bodies. There's a good number of lenses with poor/horrid zone C performance that are still good in A and B.



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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asbalyan wrote:
If I can use (on these beauties) the lenses kept in a shoulder bag ...



I'm working on an adapter as I write. It will have an 87X crop factor.



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:43 PM
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asbalyan wrote:
Are you talking about 28mm or 24mm... never heard about 25mm lens from Tamron.. but again, I may be wrong...



My mistake - typo - Tamron 24mm f2.5 Adaptall lens. I was confusing it with the Contax 25mm f2.8 lens - which is uber sharp zeiss-ness at 25mm



Dec 11, 2008 at 08:21 PM
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I've been saying it for over a year now, the Voigt 40/2 SLII kicks ass. People just don't listen, for the most part.

For the common price of an Oly 40/2, you could just about pick up a 40SLII and 58/1.4 SLII, both of which are stellar lenses. I think it is simply stupid to buy the Oly 40 for the $550+ is usually demands these days.

The Pentax 40/2.8 is also quite good, and easy to get for under $150 (well, when you find one). I bought one from the original owner for $90 i think, and included it as a body cap when i sold my 1DmkII.

The Tessar is beautiful, but i don't think it is worth a damn for use on a Canon FF. Needs slightly more surgery than the other options, and is actually so small that it's not convenient/easy to use.

I would LOVE to have a (black) Nikkor 45/2.8P AIS for my future D700, but they too command way too high of a price lately.



Dec 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM
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p.2 #16 · Contax 45 2.8 pancake lens


Have voigtlander said anything about an EF mount?


Dec 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM
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No.

Personally, i think the F mount CV's are fantastic. Has a better market if you want to sell it, too. It adapts very easily to Canon, and can be used natively on any Nikon, due to the CPU chip.



Dec 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM
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p.2 #18 · Contax 45 2.8 pancake lens


I like a little automation sometimes. Just a little.


Dec 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM
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yeah so do i haha, which is why i gave Canon the finger a few months back, and am scraping my pennies together for a D700 hhaahhahahhahhahaha


Dec 12, 2008 at 12:25 AM
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asbalyan wrote:
Which 24mm (you are talking about)...


The basic EF-S one. Not pancake, but quite small and light.



Dec 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
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