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4honor
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p.2 #1 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Doh, ha ha, actually, from this latest past shoot, the full body shots with the 50mm were sharp, it was actually the 18-55mm IS kit lens that didn't focus well, even at like f/3.5! Still, I have gotten them often enough to be a bit scared, so I am upgrading to something with USM just to be safe

Here is one I got from a previous shoot, at f/1.8:

http://www.1uprc.com/clients/misc/sample1.jpg


100% Crop:

http://www.1uprc.com/clients/misc/sample1crop.jpg



Oct 21, 2008 at 11:19 PM
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p.2 #2 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


It almost looks like you focused on the front of the bricks and then recomposed on her, but at that distance to subject it shouldn't be that horribly off.


Oct 21, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.2 #3 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


upgrade to something with USM if you need/want USM, don't expect it to automatically focus more accurately. (I currently own 3 non-USM lenses and they all focus as reliably as my L-lenses did).

You shouldn't be getting shots with such blown focus from that lens IMO... either your lens/body has a problem or your technique does..

Good luck!

>>upgrading to something with USM just to be safe



Oct 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM
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p.2 #4 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Was this model's face, chest in significant shadow coverage? She's standing in shadows and there's this awful highlight in the BG.

It could be that the camera saw the bricks as having best contrast characteristics and focus on the lines instead. The center AF point may be pointing at the sweater and has nothing to work with.



Oct 22, 2008 at 02:00 AM
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p.2 #5 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


OK, so maybe I am just using the wrong parts to use as a guide for focus... I will try more and see what happens... Thanks...


Oct 22, 2008 at 06:21 AM
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p.2 #6 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


it seemed u focus the wall next to subject for this shoot, i suggest use single AF point for shooting with fast aperture, point AF point to subject eye.


Oct 22, 2008 at 07:19 AM
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p.2 #7 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Thanks Luant16, well, I do point to the eye using single focus point, but when you are so far away, the whole focus point covers the face, and I guess when that far away, there is not much contrast for the lens to focus on...


Oct 22, 2008 at 07:38 AM
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p.2 #8 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Lens is front focused in that shot. Check bricks in front of model's feet.




Oct 22, 2008 at 09:57 AM
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p.2 #9 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


BTW, is that picture cropped out of a larger picture?



Oct 22, 2008 at 11:27 AM
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p.2 #10 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Dark Slider wrote:
BTW, is that picture cropped out of a larger picture?

The first picture is the full picture, the second one is the 100% of the first picture to show the blurriness... not that it was necessary...



Oct 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM
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p.2 #11 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


AF for wide apertures at any substantial distance for any of the Canon 50mm's has not been very reliable. This has been well documented if you do a search on this forum. I was hoping Sigma's latest offering would do better, but initial reports show similar AF issues.


Oct 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM
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p.2 #12 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


so what lens offers most reliable focus for full body shots at a distance?


Oct 22, 2008 at 11:56 AM
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p.2 #13 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


AF issues on the 50mm's is why I currently don't own a 50mm and so can't help you there. The 50mm's are fine if you don't mind MF. I personnally use my EF-S 60mm f/2.8 macro but bokeh is limited by the f/2.8.


Oct 22, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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p.2 #14 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


also, if your intent is to narrow DOF at this distance, you would have been better off in this shot using a longer lens...


Oct 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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p.2 #15 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Have a look at the 85 f/1.8, I did and I'm in love.


Oct 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
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p.2 #16 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


4honor wrote:
Thanks Luant16, well, I do point to the eye using single focus point, but when you are so far away, the whole focus point covers the face, and I guess when that far away, there is not much contrast for the lens to focus on...


well it happened alot of time when you shoot with larger aperture (subject not in focus), i suggested shoot 2-3x for the same subject and pick the best one.



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:20 PM
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p.2 #17 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


85/1.8, 85L, 100/2, 135SF & 135L are all reliable wide open.

4honor wrote:
so what lens offers most reliable focus for full body shots at a distance?




Oct 22, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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p.2 #18 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


mh2000 wrote:
also, if your intent is to narrow DOF at this distance, you would have been better off in this shot using a longer lens...


Ah ha! That's exactly what I want! I just didn't know how to say what I wanted

So you are saying I should use a 70-200mm at f/2.8 and 200mm, stand far far away enough to show the full body, to get this effect?



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:39 PM
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p.2 #19 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


Saint Sigma wrote:
Have a look at the 85 f/1.8, I did and I'm in love.

Thanks Saint Sigma, that will come after I get my 70-200 and 24-70...



Oct 22, 2008 at 01:40 PM
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p.2 #20 · Need help with reliable focus on 50 1.8


4honor wrote:
Ah ha! That's exactly what I want! I just didn't know how to say what I wanted

So you are saying I should use a 70-200mm at f/2.8 and 200mm, stand far far away enough to show the full body, to get this effect?


4honor wrote:
Thanks Saint Sigma, that will come after I get my 70-200 and 24-70...


85mm on a 1.6x body is pushing it for full-body shots. At 200mm, you might be in the next county!




Oct 22, 2008 at 01:53 PM
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