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p.71 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I dont think the bride pics are out of focus, I think it is the agressive in camera NR that accounts for the softness.


Sep 20, 2008 at 04:36 PM
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p.71 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


RalphJ wrote:
You're kidding, right? You alone have spotted focus issues on a camera that only a select few professionals have been able to shoot with, and none of them reported focus issues, but you think the camera might have "serious AF trouble" based on a few web-sized jpgs you saw?


Did you have a chance to look at those photos? Do you think most of them are OOF? They are NOT web-sized by the way.

I am not jumping to any conclusions, too early for that. Just asking for opinions.

I am actually looking forward to buying this camera eventually. Just like everybody else, I am anxious to find out how it performs. May be a little impatient (after all, I waited 5 years to upgrade).



Sep 20, 2008 at 04:48 PM
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ward1066 wrote:
I dont think the bride pics are out of focus, I think it is the agressive in camera NR that accounts for the softness.


I agree. The lack of detail smacks of NR to me.



Sep 20, 2008 at 04:52 PM
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p.71 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


there is still good detail on the cloth though. lots of texture.


Sep 20, 2008 at 05:03 PM
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p.71 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


meeus wrote:
They are supposedly taken by a serious pro, however, 90% of them (!) are clearly out of focus. Was he in a hurry? Or is this a sign of a serious AF trouble?

Please comment.


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Here is an update to this web page:
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Update: Please remember these shots were taken with a beta release camera on launch day. I took them on-the-fly whilst demonstrating the camera to press and distributors so yes the focus might be slightly out on one or two. I’m happy with the look of these images which are consistent with my style. I am not looking for absolute sharpness and so applied no additional sharpening to the images in production. Please accept these images for what they are which is a demonstration of the new camera’s amazing high ISO performance and don’t try to read too much into pixel-level sharpness....Show more

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Sep 20, 2008 at 05:10 PM
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p.71 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Any chance for a 3D announcement at the Photokina? That would be very nice


Sep 20, 2008 at 05:10 PM
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p.71 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Perhaps it's an optical illusion, but to me it always looks like the parts of an image which are in focus have less noise than the parts which are OOF.


Sep 20, 2008 at 05:19 PM
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p.71 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


fraga wrote:
iso 25600 seems pretty useless to me.
More of a gimmick than anything.
One has to consider though, that expecting good iso 25600 at present is, at least in my opinion, a bit unrealistic. Maybe in a few years.

On the other hand, having the possibility of shooting at that iso is better than not having that option, even if I think that I will never use it.
Why?
Because one day there might be a rare occasion where I might actually need it...



get better quality by using ISO1600-3200 and pushing it



Sep 20, 2008 at 05:29 PM
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p.71 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


wkhc168 wrote:
Any chance for a 3D announcement at the Photokina? That would be very nice


Nope. No chance.



Sep 20, 2008 at 05:31 PM
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Radiohead wrote:
I agree. The lack of detail smacks of NR to me.


I would gladly agree with both of you if there was not at least one pic (at ISO 800) which looks sharp to me. In fact it is just great. Well, maybe NR is not the same accross ISO range?



Sep 20, 2008 at 05:32 PM
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p.71 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


thw2 wrote:
I don't understand the above statement.

The 5D2 pixel density is the same as the 20D.

The same lenses that work well on the 20D should perform equally well on the 5D2 except for the thinner DOF. But in terms of absolute resolution, they should be equally outstanding.


in the center 8MP area that is



Sep 20, 2008 at 05:35 PM
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p.71 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


ward1066 wrote:
I dont think the bride pics are out of focus, I think it is the agressive in camera NR that accounts for the softness.


there are some with camera shake and some oof, maybe some NR too (although the DPR ones dont show nearly so much resolution loss so i think it has to be more focus and shake)



Sep 20, 2008 at 05:44 PM
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p.71 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Does anyone know if the video mode will kill the shutter quickly? I mean... 30fps...


Sep 20, 2008 at 06:03 PM
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orangefirefish wrote:
Does anyone know if the video mode will kill the shutter quickly? I mean... 30fps...


Are you joking?



Sep 20, 2008 at 06:05 PM
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p.71 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


The electronic shutter lasts eternally. =)


Sep 20, 2008 at 06:08 PM
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p.71 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


orangefirefish wrote:
Does anyone know if the video mode will kill the shutter quickly? I mean... 30fps...


Yup, after about 1 hr of video taking the shutter will knock itself up.



Sep 20, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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p.71 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


The real question is, will shooting video overheat the sensor and the shutter? Which may cause very pre-mature sensor failure.


Sep 20, 2008 at 06:53 PM
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p.71 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


rsg_1 wrote:
The real question is, will shooting video overheat the sensor and the shutter? Which may cause very pre-mature sensor failure.


Canon has made a few video cameras in their day. The only issue is that there may be some added noise after shooting video due to a warm sensor.



Sep 20, 2008 at 07:03 PM
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p.71 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


dcmiller wrote:
Canon has made a few video cameras in their day. The only issue is that there may be some added noise after shooting video due to a warm sensor.


Canon hasn't made any camcorders with this type of sensor before, so it's actually a good question. One would assume that they've considered this problem and came up with a solution, but mistakes have been made in the past. Anything's possible as they rush a new idea to market.

Maybe they have a way of turning off half the sensors when in video mode, or even 3/4 of them. You certainly don't need 21 mp to shoot HD video.



Sep 20, 2008 at 07:16 PM
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p.71 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


dcmiller wrote:
The only issue is that there may be some added noise after shooting video due to a warm sensor.


So, that means that if i shoot outdoors at 20degrees F my pics would be even less noisy? or it doesn't go both ways?

Anyway, this is a very valid question: will shutter/mirror be endangered by high usage of live-view and video mode?



Sep 20, 2008 at 07:19 PM
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