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p.63 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


digitalbug30d wrote:
funny my 30d seemed to work very well with the 100-400 must be that old AF


Try the 5D(2)... It should be way better at AI Servo tracking... Good for sports and wildlife shooting... No wait.., it only has 3,9FPS



Sep 19, 2008 at 01:54 AM
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p.63 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Now that is the biggest porky I've heard in my life - a G9 at ISO 12800 would produce nothing more than a surrealistic smear even at an avatar sized 80x80 pixels


Ever heard of sarcasm? Meaning: not a serious comment


Edited on Sep 19, 2008 at 02:04 AM · View previous versions



Sep 19, 2008 at 01:57 AM
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p.63 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


skibum5 wrote:
that's why you use an external mike when get a little more serious about the video clip you are making.

i dont see an issue here


True... found out about the external mic thing later. Now it looks a little less useless



Sep 19, 2008 at 01:58 AM
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p.63 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


rsg_1 wrote:
Chuck Westfall states it is 3-stops better than the original 5D.

Listen to his full interview at:
Inside Digital Photo Special Report


as i understood it: hes says it offers 3 stops higher sensitivity (3200->25600), he doesnt say its 3-stops better ... big difference



Sep 19, 2008 at 03:43 AM
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p.63 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Screw the artists, they're just a bunch of drug addled freaks, no one cares about them and their mothers hate them - they deserve nothing but disdain. No eosfun for artists

birders rule!



No. My mother loves me!






Sep 19, 2008 at 04:09 AM
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p.63 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I started a thread to pre-empt the great 21 megapixel backlash: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/688976


Sep 19, 2008 at 04:19 AM
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p.63 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


xichlo wrote:
It's funny, I found my 5D using one center focus point focus more accurately in low light than my 1D MKIII. Usually during the wedding, in many cases of the dark room at the reception when the light was dim for dancing, or when I need to take portrait in the low light with my 85 f1.2, my 1D MK3 cannot focus fast enough. I lost confidence with the MKIII so it sit in the back as the backup.I was very supprise about the 1D MKIII focus ability, until I read the acticle from Chuck Westfall . In short, with
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You should send your 1D3 in for a service then, as that is not my experience at all. My 1D3 and subsequent 1Ds3 both focus extremely well and quickly in very low light. There is a limit, of course, but for me it's the 5D which sat in the bag.



Sep 19, 2008 at 04:23 AM
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p.63 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mike Hatam wrote:
I saw somewhere (I think on Rob Galbraith's site) that Canon is claiming 1 - 1.5 stops improvement from the original 5D to the new 5DII.


From the online samples posted so far, it looks to me as though it is about the same as the 1Ds3, which can do this at ISO 12800:
http://cyberphotographer.com/1ds3/vampire2_lowrez.jpg
http://cyberphotographer.com/1ds3/fiddler_lowrez.jpg

...and here's a comparison with the Nikon D700:
http://cyberphotographer.com/d700v1ds3/d700v1ds3_12800iso_b.jpg



Sep 19, 2008 at 04:26 AM
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p.63 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


skibum5 wrote:
but it's warping our minds to know that IF the zeiss distagon COULD actually do auto-focus that it could've been able to do it better if they had even done a tad bit of work over the past three years. This is a very serious issue. It's very terible to think what the AF could've been like if the zeiss had had AF. Imagine how fast it MIGHT have been able to lock onto an f/9 landscape shot.


Tad means bit. Tad bit means bit bit. Get get me me?



Sep 19, 2008 at 04:33 AM
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p.63 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


So far I think the status is:

I am going to love the image quality and iso noise levels.

I am going to love the build quality and added weather sealing.

I'm going to have my doubts about the af, the viewfinder blackout/shutter lag until I have tested them ok, or found them to be not-perfect but within limits



Sep 19, 2008 at 04:34 AM
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p.63 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


OK, now the 5D2 is out, what are the chances that Canon will shortly bring out a cheaper, lower specified full frame camera?


Sep 19, 2008 at 05:02 AM
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p.63 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


David Baldwin wrote:
OK, now the 5D2 is out, what are the chances that Canon will shortly bring out a cheaper, lower specified full frame camera?


Some say it's a bargain already



Sep 19, 2008 at 05:11 AM
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p.63 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Now that there is a Pro camera that does video, are we allowed to post video equipment in the "For Sale" Forum?


Sep 19, 2008 at 05:17 AM
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p.63 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Johno wrote:
What do you make of this?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/techdigest/20080917/ttc-exclusive-canon-engineers-held-back-e870a33.html


I think this "Canon engineer" is a hoax.



Sep 19, 2008 at 05:41 AM
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p.63 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I'm sorry if this has been discussed but I couldn't find it.

What is the shutter lag on the new camera? Also, the viewfinder blackout? The original 5D was quite clunky in these areas and I'm just hoping they've been improved.

Also, in terms of auto ISO... any improvements there?



Sep 19, 2008 at 05:46 AM
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p.63 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


James Cripps wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been discussed but I couldn't find it.

What is the shutter lag on the new camera? Also, the viewfinder blackout? The original 5D was quite clunky in these areas and I'm just hoping they've been improved.

Also, in terms of auto ISO... any improvements there?


New auto ISO

Same (totally unchanged) viewfinder blackout and shutter lag. (weird priority from canon imo).



Sep 19, 2008 at 05:49 AM
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p.63 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


David Baldwin wrote:
OK, now the 5D2 is out, what are the chances that Canon will shortly bring out a cheaper, lower specified full frame camera?


I think if anything they're more likely to release a more expensive, better specified model.



Sep 19, 2008 at 05:53 AM
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p.63 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I disagree with the statement that the feature set of the 5DII is in keeping with the intent of the 5D: "image quality at a low price". If that were the case, the money spent on including video would have been spent instead on improving the AF.

Maybe Canon was so focused on finding and fixing the problems with the 1Dx3 AF fiasco that they really didn't have anything in the pipeline to improve AF - so they put in video instead?

Don't misunderstand my position - the 5DII isn't a "bad" camera, and I'm sure it will satisfy some. But as an owner of two 5Ds, what I was looking for (better AF) does not appear to be there in this release. Maybe the next model. I don't need 21 mp, I don't need or want video. I do want my shots to be sharply focused, and that means also with lenses slower than f/2.8. And "LiveView" coupled with manual focusing won't cut it with many of the shots I take. Not all my shots are of stationary subjects with the camera on a tripod.



Sep 19, 2008 at 06:08 AM
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p.63 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


harrygilbert wrote:
I disagree with the statement that the feature set of the 5DII is in keeping with the intent of the 5D: "image quality at a low price". If that were the case, the money spent on including video would have been spent instead on improving the AF.


Including video in the 5D should actually LOWER costs. It will likely generate A LOT more sales overall for the camera. So whatever costs are increased because of (a) increased R & D, and (b) increased equipment or manufacturing per unit costs, are very likely substantially outweighed by the lower per unit cost based on manufacturing a lot more units.

I also would have liked improved AF on the 5D and would have been paying more for a camera with that feature, but I think you're wrong on your assumption that adding video increases per unit costs.



Sep 19, 2008 at 06:43 AM
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p.63 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


What about heat? D90 users report that the video mode does generate a "lot" of heat to the camera, what is that going to do to the electronics over the long run since Still camera and video camera electronics are optimized for different things. Will the heat issue (if there is one) degrade AF and other systems over time?


Sep 19, 2008 at 06:47 AM
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