fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              45              47              263       264       end
  

Archive 2008 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

  
 
jmreese
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.46 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


i agree with you Bobby - my 30D has its 5fps @ 8.2MP, so a boost to 12 would not make me consider any differently.

i'm actually very eager to see how the ISO performance is (it's a camera of firsts for Canon)

who knows, i might end up with one myself someday! can't talk poorly about it until it has been put in the hands of the consumer and gone through various tests.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:36 PM
brainiac
Offline
[X]
p.46 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mike1 wrote:
Wedding photogs & AF in poor lighting? That's what the distance scale thingy is for!!!


you laugh, but that is actually how i do it.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM
shamo42
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Edgar Maguyon wrote:
I read that this is inevitable for video capture using CMOS = shutter-rollover. P&S cameras dont have this problem in video mode because they have CCD sensors.

http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/jamesmel9/?action=view¤t=DSC_0012.flv

That will suck if the 5dii video are like that. Such hi IQ crisp capture without being able to pan or move the camera


The horizontal pan in the MVI_2118.MOV didn't show any noticeable skewing. IMO much better from what I've seen from the D90 samples.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Edgar M
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


shamo42 wrote:
The horizontal pan in the MVI_2118.MOV didn't show any noticeable skewing. IMO much better from what I've seen from the D90 samples.


Because its moving soo slow.

I just remembered that security cameras also use cmos sensors and have the same jello, bubbly effect when it pans.

vimeo has alot of nice short clips of the D90. Not as noticeable as the one i posted, but its definitely there, especially the sports ones.



Sep 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
dmward
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.46 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Just got home from a meeting where three Canon Tech reps discussed, showed and let us play with a pre-pro 5DMII.

One guy had just flown in from NY with the camera and also had a Video that someone made over the weekend with a Pre-pro 5DMII. There was a lot of production value, it was a finished video clip, however, the really impressive thing was it was all shot on a 5DMII with EF lenses. If no one had said anything everyone would have presumed it was an HD video done with production quality equipment.

When answering a question about HD video frame quality, they said that it would be good enough for newspaper reproduction. In fact they claimed that was a design criteria based on discussions they had with PJs.

They described the AF as being 9 points of cross sensors with the center sensor having another cross at 45 degrees so it has 8 arms.

In hand it felt just like my 5Ds and since it was a pre-pro camera I could not put a card in to make any sample images. Not sure if that was technical or policy.

the sRAW files are made by the DigiIV after the RAW file leaves the sensor buffer so for burst shooting it is always capturing a full file, it is only the saving process that reduces file size. Sounds like an incamera version of the option to import a smaller file than camera native resolution into Photoshop.

The weather sealing is on the battery door, back of camera around the screen and the buttons on top.

It's on my shopping list. Calumet Photo said they expect units for delivery in November, and were happy to take a pre-order.



Sep 18, 2008 at 12:09 AM
bobbytan
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


This is GREAT news! Thanks for the heads up!

dmward wrote:
They described the AF as being 9 points of cross sensors with the center sensor having another cross at 45 degrees so it has 8 arms.





Sep 18, 2008 at 12:12 AM
tayo
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
This is GREAT news! Thanks for the heads up!



What does "described as" exactly mean? At this point, we have to ask.



Sep 18, 2008 at 12:28 AM
jamato8
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.46 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I am glad they put sealing around the buttons. That will help.


Sep 18, 2008 at 12:31 AM
thw2
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


dmward wrote:
They described the AF as being 9 points of cross sensors with the center sensor having another cross at 45 degrees so it has 8 arms.


If that is indeed true, it means DPReview and RobGalbraith got it wrong. A pretty serious error IMO.



Sep 18, 2008 at 12:33 AM
philber
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


There seems to be quite a bit of weathersealing too. That should make some pople happy.


Sep 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM
jamato8
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.46 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Yes, if all the focus points are cross and the central is a 45 then the focus is not the same as the 5. This is sounding better and better.


Sep 18, 2008 at 12:53 AM
tayo
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


It seems that in live view mode, it has not only face detection but also contrast-based AF, about which dpreview only says that it "allows much more freedom in terms of placing the AF point, but is considerably slower". But it doesn't become clear to me what that means in practice.

Also I'm wondering about Custom function III-7: AF point area expansion ...



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:44 AM
skibum5
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


tayo wrote:
What does "described as" exactly mean? At this point, we have to ask.


so is this true or did they just read the initial bogus (?) info off the canon USA site and pass it on, since that sounds exactly like the 40D/50D AF info and contradicts canon's japanese site....

i have a bad feeling they just read a mistaken transcript of 50D info...
but perhaps they did upgrade stuff to cross and speed things up etc. but then would RG and cnaon dpreview and canon.jp all be soooo totally wrong? And all the press info saying it carries over the 5D AF??



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:45 AM
skibum5
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


tayo wrote:
It seems that in live view mode, it has not only face detection but also contrast-based AF, about which dpreview only says that it "allows much more freedom in terms of placing the AF point, but is considerably slower". But it doesn't become clear to me what that means in practice.

Also I'm wondering about Custom function III-7: AF point area expansion ...


that means in ai servo you can either have center point only do servo, all points do it, or the center plus the hidden 6 expansion points (3 across above and 3 across below the center point, the outer 4 of them being regular precion and the inner two being high-precision if used with f/2.8 lens)



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:49 AM
luant16
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Sorry, Canon japan has full correct specs and pictures, same AF as old model.


I open Japanese websites, they put it
高速・高精度9点+アシスト6点 AFセンサー搭載
High-precision 9-point AF sensor points with 6 assists + (translation)

its either they put it spec or picture wrong (there is still a little hope, very little)

link: http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/5dmk2/index.html



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:53 AM
Daan B
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


tayo wrote:
What does "described as" exactly mean? At this point, we have to ask.


+1...

It is kind of sad that there is so much noise on this one. Even official Canon websites initially claimed 9 cross AF points, but later this was changed in 1 center AF cross point + 8 single axis AF points (even confirmed by Mr. Westfall). What's the deal here



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:54 AM
tayo
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


skibum5 wrote:
that means in ai servo you can either have center point only do servo, all points do it, or the center plus the hidden 6 expansion points (3 across above and 3 across below the center point, the outer 4 of them being regular precion and the inner two being high-precision if used with f/2.8 lens)


Thanks, that's probably whyI didn't remember it... on the 5D mk2, it's apparently only enable/disable.



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:57 AM
Daan B
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
You've answered your own question - this isn't a camera for sports shooters! Of course Canon knows AF is important .... but you can't expect them to give you everything in one body. If they do, who is going to buy the 1-series?



They could have upgraded the 40D/50D with the 6 assist points of the 5D... Not too much trouble IMO.



Sep 18, 2008 at 01:59 AM
beelz
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Daan B wrote:
+1...

It is kind of sad that there is so much noise on this one. Even official Canon websites initially claimed 9 cross AF points, but later this was changed in 1 center AF cross point + 8 single axis AF points (even confirmed by Mr. Westfall). What's the deal here


IDK this is on their site now.

Autofocus Type TTL-CT-SIR AF-dedicated CMOS sensor AF Points 9 (Cross-type)

Can someone please explain to me what the big news is about the AF and why some people think its not any good or at least a none worthy update. I am kinda new to the AF terms and concepts thanks




Sep 18, 2008 at 02:25 AM
Marcus Watts
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.46 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


beelz wrote:
IDK this is on their site now.

Autofocus Type TTL-CT-SIR AF-dedicated CMOS sensor AF Points 9 (Cross-type)

Can someone please explain to me what the big news is about the AF and why some people think its not any good or at least a none worthy update. I am kinda new to the AF terms and concepts thanks



People hear that it has the same amount of af points and assume that technological advances won't come into play.

Of course the auto focus will be a big improvement on the first 5D which was fine anyway.

The negative comments are from those who either speculate on how good something will be or not then get emotionally heated over their speculation or those who just want to stomp their feet like a two year old and throw a tantrum because they really wanted a 1Ds3 in a 5D body.



Sep 18, 2008 at 02:56 AM
1       2       3              45              47              263       264       end




FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3              45              47              263       264       end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account