Evidently not. What's the point of this post? Do you not think the folks out there who are starting to get their cameras are doing enough for you specifically?
The point is I'd like to see some pics taken by FM users who've gotten their hands on this camera.
They can do whatever they want. If you think I'm putting undue pressure on them, you're giving me way too much credit !
Adobe gives you three options with new releases of software so you can stay current with ACR 1. Update CSx 2. Update LRx 3. use DNG. Of course you could update both CSx and LRx. Other choices use DPP and other RAW coverters and ship your image to your old version of PS as a tiff, dng or jpeg.
Final choice: shoot jpeg
ny888 wrote:
The point is I'd like to see some pics taken by FM users who've gotten their hands on this camera.
They can do whatever they want. If you think I'm putting undue pressure on them, you're giving me way too much credit !
Except for examples of noise/no noise, I'd rather have RAW files I can download just like what lecter did in his post. Just don't feel you can learn a heck of a lot from a reduced jpeg image of somebody's cat
Besides that too much rides on the lens, settings and technique used.
Gil_W wrote:
Except for examples of noise/no noise, I'd rather have RAW files I can download just like what lecter did in his post. Just don't feel you can learn a heck of a lot from a reduced jpeg image of somebody's cat
Besides that too much rides on the lens, settings and technique used.
Agreed but pics of cats are good too.
Since I can't get my 5D2 till Spring, I'll just have to live vicariously through others here.
Roland W wrote:
In response to requests, here is a photo of a 5D Mark II that was purchased from a local dealer here in the USA today, November 25, 2008. It is a photo taken by the camera of the camera, using a mirror. It also happens to be taken at ISO 6400. So they exist and are real. More to follow when I get a chance.
This is an obvious fake! They spelled everything backwards!!!
Roland W thank you for your quick response the noise test shows us very good results. I wish you to have nice and creative use of your camera. In Greece the told us that it will be here and propably in my hands next week
I think that's a pretty sweeping statement about a company that has traditionally held back its technology, metering it out a little at a time, just so it can sell you a new camera every year. The 50D and 5D2 are really only the result of competition from DSLR newcomer Sony, and Nikon, who has also had to keep up with the Sony new releases.
Canon is honoring its rebates because it has to, in order to prevent really bad public relations from a story on ABC (or NBC or Fox or CNN) news:
"International technology company Canon, Inc. is getting severe criticism from customers and lawmakers when it announced today that its rebate agent filed for Chapter 11 and that customer rebates due to be paid by that agent would not be honored. Thousands of rebate checks to Canon customers have been returned due to Insufficient Funds. One Los Angeles based law firm has already begun soliciting customers for a class action lawsuit against the Japanese company and its American affiliate, Canon USA, Inc." ...Show more →
Actually, that's not even true. Canon has said they are working on ths problem. People are too interested in suing, abetted by lawyers out to make at least 33% on the spoils.
The bankruptcy was unexpected for Canon, and all of the other companies who depended on them for their rebate programs.
You are getting information that is old, out of date, and simply wrong.
Before posting such nonsense, find out for yourself. We have alrady posted information about this.
I will post this again, as we've already posted it at least twice already:
dcmiller wrote:
Thank goodness for Red. While I do agree that Canon and other camera companies are usually behaving ethically, as a customer I don't like how they develop and release product. I don't like how they communicate with customers.
Canon style, plus the increase in the importance of software, puts Canon at risk in the photography and video business. I doubt their senior management has a clue as to some of the foundational issues that will build future successful companies.
RED, you're kidding?
Their "products" won't be out for at least a year, if at all. Even they admit that their prices and specs may be "drastically" altered. That's their word, not mine.
If you disagree with him, on his site's forums, he yells at you, and insults you! What n ethical way to run a company, right? Ask him a question about why he's doing something a certain way, and her replies that it's his company, and he'll run it the way he wants to.
krobatshov wrote:
seriously...some ppl care more about general impression, composition than sharpness and pixel peeping
That is very true krobatshov, but sharpness and pixel peeping tell a story about the camera while general impression and composition tell a story about the photographer.
This forum in general and this thread in particular are more concerned with the former. There are many other forums on this site catering very well to the latter.
Thank you Roland. From your images and lecters, people can make fairly good conclusions on the high ISO abilities of the mkII. From what I have seen, looks close to the MKI.
Roland W wrote:
I did some limited autofocus speed testing in low light comparing my old 5D with my new 5D Mark 2. I was using an f2.8 telephoto. Not to accurate a test, and totally subjective, but they seem very similar. ...........
If you mean similar on a per pixel basis, tha would make the mark II at least a stop better.
Alistair1 wrote:
That is very true krobatshov, but sharpness and pixel peeping tell a story about the camera while general impression and composition tell a story about the photographer.
This forum in general and this thread in particular are more concerned with the former. There are many other forums on this site catering very well to the latter.
there's still more to pushing a camera to the limit than just photographing brick walls
yea, pixel peeping is essential if you work professionally, but getting something to the limit is not done by taking pics of ...say....dull/static stuff at burst mode
even the cupboard shown at iso6400 above is better than most of those wall pics I'm talking about
Their "products" won't be out for at least a year, if at all. Even they admit that their prices and specs may be "drastically" altered. That's their word, not mine.
If you disagree with him, on his site's forums, he yells at you, and insults you! What n ethical way to run a company, right? Ask him a question about why he's doing something a certain way, and her replies that it's his company, and he'll run it the way he wants to.
Great!
Well, Mel, Red puts pressure on Canon and the others to push out products faster. That's a lot better than the trade group all the Japanese imaging companies belong to managing competition for the good of that industry in Japan. A western high tech approach will likely produce different products and a different corporate culture. At least you can be insulted by an American billionaire in public. Senior Canon management has no interest in what you think.
Roland W wrote:
In response to requests, here is a photo of a 5D Mark II that was purchased from a local dealer here in the USA today, November 25, 2008. It is a photo taken by the camera of the camera, using a mirror. It also happens to be taken at ISO 6400. So they exist and are real. More to follow when I get a chance.
Please don't respond to poster(s) who call you a liar. The adults here assumed you have the camera. Bait and response will just turn this place into dpreview.
dcmiller wrote:
Please don't respond to poster(s) who call you a liar. The adults here assumed you have the camera. Bait and response will just turn this place into dpreview.
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