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p.145 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I don't know if this has been posted yet, but there are now sample images here:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2008/10/28/9506.html




Nov 01, 2008 at 09:30 PM
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p.145 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mel Gross wrote:
Can you show us that comment?



My bad!! I was referring to the 1 Ds MK IIII and not the MK II.



Nov 01, 2008 at 09:42 PM
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kabhatti wrote:
I was at the Photo plus expo in NY last week and got to play around with the 5d2. The canon reps would not allow anyone to put a media card in it, saying it was strictly a pre production model. By saying that, I would hope they are tweaking the specs up. The reps said, even they do not know the quality and specs of video. I had asked them if a still frame could be pulled out of the video footage and how big the file would be. He answered by saying it may be around 2 megs.
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The images from a 1920x1080 pixel frame will be approx 2 megapixels (simple math), perhaps that is what he meant, which in the scheme of things isn't news.



Nov 01, 2008 at 11:00 PM
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I think he is referring to an e-mail response to a question that was then posted. You can find it here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=29722755

I should point out that he did NOT say that the "RAW files are virtually indistinguishable". The actual statement on noise in the RAW files is as follows:

"Let me put it to you this way: Using Canon's DPP 3.5.1 raw conversion software with all image quality settings equalized, noise levels will be almost the same for both cameras, with a slight advantage to the 5D Mark II because of the improvements in its CMOS sensor compared to the 1Ds Mark
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Nov 01, 2008 at 11:05 PM
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kabhatti wrote:
I was at the Photo plus expo in NY last week and got to play around with the 5d2. The canon reps would not allow anyone to put a media card in it, saying it was strictly a pre production model. By saying that, I would hope they are tweaking the specs up. The reps said, even they do not know the quality and specs of video. I had asked them if a still frame could be pulled out of the video footage and how big the file would be. He answered by saying it may be around 2 megs.
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I was told that they were production models.



Nov 01, 2008 at 11:09 PM
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p.145 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Paul Yi wrote:
I'm saying, then, 1-series camera was way over-priced to begin with.


Rubbish. It was priced exactly at what the buyers would pay at that time, and obviously most of them were willing to pay that price.



Nov 01, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.145 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I did the same last year for a mkIII, was cameraless for too long
Ugh, that's where I'm at. Sold my 5D the week the 5D2 was announced. Probably not a bad idea, got over $1700 for it, but I'm gettin' restless with no camera now!

To bide my time, I threw together this 5D site to gather all links I could find into one place.

One thing for sure, I'll have the manual embedded in my memory by the time the camera shows up!



Nov 01, 2008 at 11:34 PM
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Paul Yi wrote:
Is it a given fact that the IQ of 5DMKII is better than 1Ds MKII?


A fect is a fact, no 'given' about it.

If so, Canon sure fooled everyone who spent $8000 just about less than 2 years ago.

Errr, how? Would the smart people have waited until now for a camera that STILL isn't out? And what did they do in the meantime? Take photos with their stack of 80 $100 bills they hadn't spent?

Two years ago is an eternity. How many frames have been shot since then?

Besides which, the 1-series is a different beast indeed - it's most certainly not just about image quality.



Nov 01, 2008 at 11:51 PM
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PaulieDC wrote:
Ugh, that's where I'm at. Sold my 5D the week the 5D2 was announced. Probably not a bad idea, got over $1700 for it, but I'm gettin' restless with no camera now!

To bide my time, I threw together this 5D site to gather all links I could find into one place.

One thing for sure, I'll have the manual embedded in my memory by the time the camera shows up!


nice web site I like it. Save me the time of reading forums



Nov 02, 2008 at 04:56 AM
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The question remains now for future 1d series............how much will they start to charge em' from here on?


Nov 02, 2008 at 05:57 AM
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Emmet Otter wrote:
The question remains now for future 1d series............how much will they start to charge em' from here on?


Especially now that Canon have reported their first drop in profits for nine years :
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9317-9719



Nov 02, 2008 at 07:28 AM
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I could be absolutely wrong, but I believe Canon is very fond of the huge profit to be had in the 8.000 dolars Ds series, so the next Ds will probably be around 30MP or more, with several other features, as to allow them the possibility to, once more, charge 8000$ for a camera.

If it's the biggest and absolutely the best, they can get away with it.
And they will.
Like they have been for a long time.




Nov 02, 2008 at 09:36 AM
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The day of the 8K digital 35mm format camera is over.

Oz has spoken



Nov 02, 2008 at 10:28 AM
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p.145 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I see this thread is still going strong on the 5D2


Nov 02, 2008 at 10:30 AM
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p.145 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


John Power wrote:
The day of the 8K digital 35mm format camera is over.

Oz has spoken



I agree. WHen can I pre order the new 1 series with 30 mg+ files and dual DigiMark 4 processors, etc.



Nov 02, 2008 at 10:42 AM
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p.145 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


I don't think this 5DII video has been posted here.

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bora Lane; Moving photography



Nov 02, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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p.145 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


This is like saying that the early adopters of the computer, cell phone, external hard drives and high-capacity memory cards, etc are all suckers. If you can afford it, there is aboslutely nothing wrong in getting a two-year head start over the peasants .... of which, I am one!

Paul Yi wrote:
Is it a given fact that the IQ of 5DMKII is better than 1Ds MKII?
If so, Canon sure fooled everyone who spent $8000 just about less than 2 years ago.




Nov 02, 2008 at 12:38 PM
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dcmiller wrote:
I don't think this 5DII video has been posted here.

" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bora Lane; Moving photography


good video, no idea why people bother to bash the video feature. I see it as live-view, if you dont want it, dont use it. Simple.



Nov 02, 2008 at 03:17 PM
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fraga wrote:
I could be absolutely wrong, but I believe Canon is very fond of the huge profit to be had in the 8.000 dolars Ds series, so the next Ds will probably be around 30MP or more, with several other features, as to allow them the possibility to, once more, charge 8000$ for a camera.

If it's the biggest and absolutely the best, they can get away with it.
And they will.
Like they have been for a long time.



Maybe. It depends on Nikon. If they do come out with a more competitive camera to the 1Ds series, what will they charge for that? Would they retire the D3 in favor of that, and charge about the same? Or will they keep the D3, and charge more for the D3X, D4, or whatever they call it?

If so, what will they charge? $6,000, $7,000, more?

That could determine what Canon will charge.



Nov 02, 2008 at 04:06 PM
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p.145 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


the thing people forget is that pcs have to upgrade regularly to keep up with our needs, ie as we require more space to store an ever increasing demand for digital data. also more powerfull programmes require faster chips.

Photography on the other hand can ony go so far. the human eye is only so good so whats the point in a 100 mpx 100fps iso 3000000 camera. are we all going to be cropping to 500% or printing 20ft x 20ft. we have already surpassed alot of film cameras.

people have been buying prints from much more inferior cameras for years mainly for their asthetic qualities not for the pixel perfection qualities.



Nov 02, 2008 at 05:09 PM
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