marcwilson wrote:
12.5 to 25 is twice so yes 21 a bit of an exaggeration, of course not twice, but you get the meaning..it's a whole lot of extra resolution
Twice the MP is not twice the resolution as it take 4X the MP to double the resolution. That's all I meant as people commonly think that doubling the MP doubles the resolution which is not true.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The specification that Canon gives is:
"Water resistance: 10 mm rain in 3 minutes"
That is a claim in my book. What do you call it? and note, its mm, not cm. That would be a very very light drizzle, not a hurricane as someone on one of the Canon forums mentioned. People are already starting to believe this thing has real weather resistance it would appear.
Um...10mm in 3 minutes is over 7 INCHES of rain in an hour. That's definitely hurricane like rain. A HUGE rainstorm will drop 3 inches of rain. To give you perspective...in Columbus, OH, we've had 21 inches of rain this entire YEAR. So the 5DII is rated for one third of our year to date rainfall...if it fell in an hour. That's a heck of a lot of rain. That's a well sealed body.
The details of how they're implementing the video will be very interesting. Is it really 1080p or Cano's consumer "almost 1080p"? How are they reading the sensor? Is the sensor capable of full res video with enough processor behind it?
It it's decent quality the narrow dof on fast lenses will be very cool.
Cableaddict wrote:
Hmmmm. I still feel like waiting for the "3D" or whatever, but things aren't quite as bad as initial reports indicated.
From a travesty and an insult to photographers to the best IQ of any DSLR with the added benefit of weatherproofing. All in 48 hours. That crazy internet.
Your right. Sorry. I can't imagine how Canon could make that claim given what the battery door and CF card slot look like. I'm in Florida and one week this month during a tropical storm, we had over 21" of rain in a few Days! Wonder if Canon would be willing to send me a 5DII so I could test their claim.
Jman13 wrote:
Um...10mm in 3 minutes is over 7 INCHES of rain in an hour. That's definitely hurricane like rain. A HUGE rainstorm will drop 3 inches of rain. To give you perspective...in Columbus, OH, we've had 21 inches of rain this entire YEAR. So the 5DII is rated for one third of our year to date rainfall...if it fell in an hour. That's a heck of a lot of rain. That's a well sealed body.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Your right. Sorry. I can't imagine how Canon could make that claim given what the battery door and CF card slot look like. I'm in Florida and one week this month during a tropical storm, we had over 21" of rain in a few Days! Wonder if Canon would be willing to send me a 5DII so I could test their claim.
Tariq,
Forgive me if I am overstating the obvious here, but it seems to me that your hand would provide some extra protection around the CF slot door. Even if some trickles through your hand, the door is designed to withstand much more, according to Canon. Also, the battery door is on the bottom of the camera. Water obeys the laws of physics; it'll be pulled off the bottom of the camera by gravity much more readily than it will climb upwards, past the weather seals and into the body of the camera.
I think you'd get into trouble if you set the camera upside down and left it in the rain, otherwise...
I dunno, I've just heard a lot of stories about people who have taken their 5Ds and used them in light rain without any issue. The water-damage failures are almost always people who have tipped a canoe or something. I figure the 5D2 gives a bit more peace of mind, but we all still need to be as careful with the equipment as we are comfortable with. Bad things happen sometimes, regardless of how well sealed a body is.
cogitech wrote:
Hence, a good reason to keep the 5D
Sure, but don't stop there. If you go back to a 3 megapixel camera you will get even better results, from some real budget lenses. The old 16-35 is fantastic on a D30. You will get great pixels. See the error in your thinking now?
brainiac wrote:
Sure, but don't stop there. If you go back to a 3 megapixel camera you will get even better results, from some real budget lenses. The old 16-35 is fantastic on a D30. You will get great pixels. See the error in your thinking now?
No.
3 MP would not satisfy my printing needs and an APS-C sensor does not work with my shooting style.
The 12.8MP, FF 5D, on the other hand, is much more than adequate for me, and all my lenses perform wonderfully on the body.
Hence, a good reason to keep the 5D.
Despite my woody for the 5DII's video feature, I'm mostly likely going to be buying another 5D. It is way to soon to make any sort of decision. That'll take me till April or so.
If you only knew what a Rokkor 58 can do on 21 megapixels a couple of stops down. Never mind, I quite understand that cropability and extra detail don't interest you. ;-)
brainiac wrote:
If you only knew what a Rokkor 58 can do on 21 megapixels a couple of stops down. Never mind, I quite understand that cropability and extra detail don't interest you. ;-)
Well, as long as I don't know, I'm just fine, thanks
No mirror flip in Live View ! (Cableaddict is suddenly intrigued. Stealth shots now possible.)
"If you use contrast-detect AF (called 'live mode' by Canon) in Live View the Mark II doesn't need to drop the mirror between exposures, this means the lag between pressing the shutter release button and the exposure is much shorter (it also means that in this mode camera is metering using the main sensor). This also makes the exposure much quieter."
Does that mean you can use lenses which previously caused the mirror to hit the back of the lens (like the Leica 19 mm on the old 5d) using this feature.
I have taken my 5D into light rain/mist over a number of hours, wiping it down constantly, and it performed flawlessly.
About the rain. When your in a tropical storm, hurricane, etc., which are the type of conditions some are talking about, the rain comes from all directions due to the intense wind. It would be fairly easy for water to work its way between the battery grip and the camera given it appears there is no gasket nor foam between that area of the 5DII and the grip. I have never read anywhere that Canon claims Weatherproof for the 5DII anyway and its probably a good idea that word not be used as it gives the wrong impression. Weather resistant is the word they use.
cogitech wrote:
Tariq,
Forgive me if I am overstating the obvious here, but it seems to me that your hand would provide some extra protection around the CF slot door. Even if some trickles through your hand, the door is designed to withstand much more, according to Canon. Also, the battery door is on the bottom of the camera. Water obeys the laws of physics; it'll be pulled off the bottom of the camera by gravity much more readily than it will climb upwards, past the weather seals and into the body of the camera.
I think you'd get into trouble if you set the camera upside down and left it in the rain, otherwise...
I dunno, I've just heard a lot of stories about people who have taken their 5Ds and used them in light rain without any issue. The water-damage failures are almost always people who have tipped a canoe or something. I figure the 5D2 gives a bit more peace of mind, but we all still need to be as careful with the equipment as we are comfortable with. Bad things happen sometimes, regardless of how well sealed a body is....Show more →
ziyadj wrote:
Does that mean you can use lenses which previously caused the mirror to hit the back of the lens (like the Leica 19 mm on the old 5d) using this feature.
Unlikely.
Even if you were careful to never engage the other AF system, I'm sure the mirror drops when you turn the camera off. Plus, you just MIGHT want to use the viewfinder once in a while with that Leica WA.
Can you manually focus using the liveview. I have a 20D so don’t know how the liveview is used for manually focusing.
I guess if you were careful, and used the liveview for manual focusing and removed the lens before you turnoff the camera it may be possible to use some of the alternative lenses that have reported problems with mirror clearence on FF cameras. But I guess it may be a really cumbersome process.
shirozina wrote:
I did a job with my 5D yesterday - I was amazed to see that it still takes very good quality pictures despite the anouncment of the 5DII.
That's because your 5D is unaware yet of the new 5DII
