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Archive 2008 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.

  
 
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p.2 #1 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


edwardkaraa wrote:
The question is why was this lens discontinued, and why Cosina only makes the other 2 lenses (40 and 58) only in Nikon and Pentax mounts while they don't seem to have a problem with the EF mount and electronic communication with the camera body as this lens proves it? Could this issue be related as to why Cosina/Zeiss does not make any EF mount lenses?


Cosina stopped production of the Voigtlander SL line because they got the contract to do the new Zeiss lenses. Voigtlander and Zeiss are different companies, the former being okay with putting electronics on their lenses, the latter not. I believe that's the story. Interesting question about why there is no EF-mount 40 or 58.



Aug 28, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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p.2 #2 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


weekh wrote:
That's totally not true.
I've been importing and selling about 40 pieces of the CV125 lens last year.


So everyone knows where to get one, now



Aug 28, 2008 at 06:52 PM
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p.2 #3 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


StevenPA wrote:
Cosina stopped production of the Voigtlander SL line because they got the contract to do the new Zeiss lenses. Voigtlander and Zeiss are different companies, the former being okay with putting electronics on their lenses, the latter not. I believe that's the story. Interesting question about why there is no EF-mount 40 or 58.


When I bought my Voigtländer SL75/2.5 I understood it as there is no Voigtländer company any more. Cosina simply own the brand name and can do whatever they want to do with it. For example put it on hold in favor of making Zeiss lenses.

Edited by Jonas B on Aug 29, 2008 at 01:13 AM GMT

Edited on Aug 28, 2008 at 07:13 PM



Aug 28, 2008 at 07:11 PM
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p.2 #4 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Steve estimates that only 100 of them were produced. I don't know how accurate that is but, needless to say, quantities are very limited. People constantly speculate that an SLII version will be released.



I don't know how many CV125 they produced, but I do know COSINA try to dump the last batch (around 100 units) for USD 300 ea (half the original price) in Japan not long ago. I paid 350 for my CV125 though.


Edited on Aug 28, 2008 at 07:14 PM



Aug 28, 2008 at 07:12 PM
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p.2 #5 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


cogitech wrote:
It is worth every penny, IMO. For me, it is like having an EF 100mm/2.8 Macro USM and an EF 135L rolled into one, but with better macro performance, no CA, a real focus ring, a complete lack of "the Canon look", and the gorgeous, bayonet-style, square, metal hood is included.

More info can be found here http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/267-voigtlander-sl-125mm-f25-apo-lanthar-test-report--review


OMG, I just looked at one of the wide open samples from the reveiw above.
This looks like one special lens.
Now which lenses am I willing to give up to get one?,.....

JayT



Aug 28, 2008 at 08:29 PM
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p.2 #6 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Jonas B wrote:
When I bought my Voigtländer SL75/2.5 I understood it as there is no Voigtländer company any more. Cosina simply own the brand name and can do whatever they want to do with it. For example put it on hold in favor of making Zeiss lenses.


Interesting. Do you happen to know who does the lens designs then?



Aug 28, 2008 at 09:02 PM
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p.2 #7 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


cogitech wrote:
So everyone knows where to get one, now


Those whom I sold to are now selling the lens at a big profit!
If only I had stocked up the lenses for sales a year later......

http://www.lens-scape.com/article/v125-002.jpg

http://www.lens-scape.com/article/v125-003.jpg

http://www.lens-scape.com/article/v125-004.jpg

http://www.lens-scape.com/article/v125-005.jpg



Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 04:21 AM



Aug 28, 2008 at 11:18 PM
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p.2 #8 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


I remember having a private correspondence with optical guru Cinstance back in the manual focus hey-day on FM about the Voigtlander 125mm vs the Canon 135mm L as he owned them both (and practically every other high end glass). I too was looking for the ideal lens to replace both the Tamron 90mm f2.8 macro and Canon 135mm f2 L with one lens. Lee Song indicated that although the 125mm was good at distances, it was not as good as the 135mm f2 L based on his testing, so I ended up not purchasing one at the time.


Aug 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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p.2 #9 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Qwerty64 wrote:
I remember having a private correspondence with optical guru Cinstance back in the manual focus hey-day on FM about the Voigtlander 125mm vs the Canon 135mm L as he owned them both (and practically every other high end glass). I too was looking for the ideal lens to replace both the Tamron 90mm f2.8 macro and Canon 135mm f2 L with one lens. Lee Song indicated that although the 125mm was good at distances, it was not as good as the 135mm f2 L based on his testing, so I ended up not purchasing one at the time.


Indeed, it may not be as good as the 135L at further distances, but I can certainly conclude from my experience that it is more than good enough (and certainly better than any other 100-something mm portrait lens that I have used).

Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM



Aug 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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p.2 #10 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


I think what Steven at CameraQuest meant was that only about a hundred were produced in the EF mount. There were others made in various mounts. I know I've seen them in Minolta & Nikon mounts. I think I've seen them in one or two other mounts. It took lots of patience for me to find mine at a semi-reasonable price once the word was out.


Aug 29, 2008 at 02:53 PM
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p.2 #11 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


I bought a Voigtlander 125mm from Cinstance a while back. The rendering and color is very unique and beautiful. But I was not using it enough and I sold the lens recently in *bay. I was surprised at the auction end price. I was happy for the price but also hitting myself for not having the idea to stock on these. Oh well.


Aug 29, 2008 at 03:07 PM
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p.2 #12 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


StevenPA wrote:
Interesting. Do you happen to know who does the lens designs then?


I'm sorry Steven, I have no idea about that. Somehow I always have thought, without thinking much about it, that Cosina design their lenses (like the M-mount rangefinder lenses).



Aug 29, 2008 at 03:23 PM
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p.2 #13 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Ray Simpson wrote:
I think what Steven at CameraQuest meant was that only about a hundred were produced in the EF mount. There were others made in various mounts. I know I've seen them in Minolta & Nikon mounts. I think I've seen them in one or two other mounts. It took lots of patience for me to find mine at a semi-reasonable price once the word was out.


That's what I always assumed Steven meant as well.



Aug 29, 2008 at 03:48 PM
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p.2 #14 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Does Nikon mount version work on EOS with an adapter?
If so, would any Nikon to EOS adapter work?

If used with an adapter, would manual focus with AE work?



Aug 29, 2008 at 05:57 PM
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p.2 #15 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Paul Yi wrote:
Does Nikon mount version work on EOS with an adapter?


Yes, just as any F-mount lens can be adapted.

If so, would any Nikon to EOS adapter work?

Yes.

If used with an adapter, would manual focus with AE work?

Only in Av and M mode, with stop-down metering (as with most adapted lenses). No auto aperture, of course, which is a huge advantage of the EOS version.

Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 06:02 PM



Aug 29, 2008 at 06:01 PM
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p.2 #16 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


If I can buy a new Nikon mount one for $600, is it a good deal?


Aug 29, 2008 at 06:08 PM
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p.2 #17 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Ray Simpson wrote:
I think what Steven at CameraQuest meant was that only about a hundred were produced in the EF mount.



Certainly not true. Small timer like me can't be selling 40 pieces of the 100 EF mount.
I was so impressed by the lens that I introduced this lens to the forum community in my country. However this lens was not readily available and I imported the lens several pieces each time selling to fellow forumers.

The lens was introduced in the early 2000. So Cosina must have certainly make many production run on this lens before they decided to stop production last year. And I've seen 2 packagings that comes in black and green version. I've only handled the green version so I guess the black version was for the earlier models.

Edited by weekh on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM GMT

Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 06:15 PM



Aug 29, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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p.2 #18 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Paul Yi wrote:
If I can buy a new Nikon mount one for $600, is it a good deal?



Certainly with the current going price.
However, EF mount will certainly cost higher due to the extra automation it offers.



Aug 29, 2008 at 06:11 PM
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p.2 #19 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Paul Yi wrote:
If I can buy a new Nikon mount one for $600, is it a good deal?


That's a great deal! Please send it to me for $700 yes, a very good deal.



Aug 29, 2008 at 07:45 PM
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p.2 #20 · CV 125/2.5: A keeper.


Getting back to the "135L comparison", here's a sample of what I think is "good enough".

5D + CV 125/2.5, wide open, ISO 800. (please don't evaluate the artistic merit of the shot, that isn't the point here)

http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/CV_125/img_8167.jpg

100%
http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/CV_125/img_8167_1.jpg

Does it need to be any sharper? Does the DOF need to be any shallower? Does the bokeh need to be any "better"?

Not for my shooting.



Edited on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:49 PM



Aug 29, 2008 at 07:47 PM
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