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Terry D
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Well someone commented on my thread the other day that the SB-900 wasn't all that powerful... said that the Metz was the better flash.... well I gotta tell ya, I'm not takin mine back for an exchange

Here is a shot from the drag races tonight... D3, ISO 2000, Manual Ex 1/250th @ f4, with a 50mm f1.4 Nikkor (this is a crop) and the SB-900 set to TTL and 200mm zoom. Check out the background.... wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back.

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Oh... I had to increase the contrast a bit because of all the tire smoke in the air... it flattened the contrast out quite a bit... you can see it in the upper part of the image.

Maybe shot #2 will give a better idea of how far away I was and what coverage the flash gave. I didn't process this except for USM.

The third shot is with no flash, same lens at 1/320 sec. @ f2 which is 1 2/3 stops more light with what the track lighting has to offer. There is 1/4 the ambient light coming from the camera side... the pit side. All I did was USM to this so as not to alter the original results.

Edited by Terry D on Aug 23, 2008 at 11:54 AM GMT

Edited on Aug 23, 2008 at 09:54 AM



Aug 23, 2008 at 03:19 AM
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How far away were the cars? How about the stands in the background?

Gerald



Aug 23, 2008 at 03:34 AM
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ISO 2000, f1.4? I'm wondering what this image would have looked like without the flash. The very bright specular highlight on the hood of the black car doesn't look like it came from your flash. If that is true, it would be hard to tell how much light was provided by the flash or by other sources.


Aug 23, 2008 at 07:17 AM
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Chris_Platt wrote:
ISO 2000, f1.4? I'm wondering what this image would have looked like without the flash. The very bright specular highlight on the hood of the black car doesn't look like it came from your flash. If that is true, it would be hard to tell how much light was provided by the flash or by other sources.



You can tell be the direction of the shadow under the cars that the flash is contributing very little light into the total scene. So to answer your question: pretty similar to what you're seeing here except for the nearest car, which is clearly illuminated by the flash.

I'm still impressed with 200mm though, especially if it can come in place of the clumsy beamer.




Edited on Aug 23, 2008 at 08:05 AM



Aug 23, 2008 at 08:05 AM
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Chris_Platt wrote:
ISO 2000, f1.4? I'm wondering what this image would have looked like without the flash. The very bright specular highlight on the hood of the black car doesn't look like it came from your flash. If that is true, it would be hard to tell how much light was provided by the flash or by other sources.


You guys have to read the details D3, ISO 2000, Manual Ex 1/250th @ f4, with a 50mm f1.4....NOT f1.4

If you look at the strong ambient light shadow coming from the OTHER side of the track and realize that the far car is black ... the flash is clearly filling the camera side.

Again there was a WALL of tire smoke lingering between the bleachers on both sides of the track that splayed the light and it still got through.

I was probably 70 feet from the car sitting up in the bleachers.



Aug 23, 2008 at 09:30 AM
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p.1 #6 · Got POP! SB-900 WOW


Terry, who is driving the little golf cart in the third picture? Teen Wolf?

Flash looks plenty powerful, I guess the drivers aren't distracted



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM
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Well it says here that the SB-900 is no better than the SB-600: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb900.htm


Aug 23, 2008 at 10:05 AM
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Elan II wrote:
You can tell be the direction of the shadow under the cars that the flash is contributing very little light into the total scene. So to answer your question: pretty similar to what you're seeing here except for the nearest car, which is clearly illuminated by the flash.

I'm still impressed with 200mm though, especially if it can come in place of the clumsy beamer.



Not adding a lot of light! The dark shadown from the wall is GONE! And even the car shadows are greatly reduced. The Nation Guard sign is reflecting back.

However, the irony is I like the 3rd shot best, but, these pictures show what the SB900 is capable of.



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:07 AM
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Grognard wrote:
Well it says here that the SB-900 is no better than the SB-600: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb900.htm


Is it just me or does Ken Rockwell not come across as a very happy guy.



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:21 AM
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stuuke wrote:
Is it just me or does Ken Rockwell not come across as a very happy guy.



I'm happy....



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM
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Jack White wrote:
Terry, who is driving the little golf cart in the third picture? Teen Wolf?

Flash looks plenty powerful, I guess the drivers aren't distracted


Teen Wolf is right Jack. they planted themselves there for half a dozen passes and screwed up my view.

The track photogs ( the guy leaning over the wall) are right in the driver's faces with a flash... I think the drivers are too focused for it to be much of a distraction... of course I don't think that the photog by the wall had an SB-900 either.... it might have melted the plastic on the side of the car if he had

Edited on Aug 23, 2008 at 10:35 AM



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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Grognard wrote:
Well it says here that the SB-900 is no better than the SB-600: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb900.htm


"I got my hands on one, and my first thoughts are that the high price is for all the gizmos and things that just get in the way of ever being able to figure it out and take a picture," says Ken Rockwell.....


Kenny, Boobala, call me.... I'll explain it to ya.



Aug 23, 2008 at 10:41 AM
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Terry D wrote:
Kenny, Boobala, call me.... I'll explain it to ya.


Good one Terry.

I like #3 best. But again, this is all about the SB-900 and it is a great flash.
Dan


Edited on Aug 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM



Aug 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM
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there needs to be a rule in FM that disables any account mentioning or linking to KR.


Aug 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM
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danjacquitaylo wrote:
Good one Terry.

I like #3 best. But again, this is all about the SB-900 and it is a great flash.
Dan


Hi Dan... thanks



Aug 23, 2008 at 12:03 PM
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AJ Nadershahi wrote:
there needs to be a rule in FM that disables any account mentioning or linking to KR.


But then what would we do for giggles AJ



Aug 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · Got POP! SB-900 WOW


I'm very happy that KR's comments were ignored.

Terry, have you tried a Better Beamer attachment? It will extend the limits of your flash. Outdoor photogs use it when shooting wildlife.



Aug 23, 2008 at 01:00 PM
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James R wrote:
I'm very happy that KR's comments were ignored.

Terry, have you tried a Better Beamer attachment? It will extend the limits of your flash. Outdoor photogs use it when shooting wildlife.


Hi James. I have one, but I'm afraid to use it in fear of starting my woods on fire.

Edited on Aug 23, 2008 at 04:43 PM



Aug 23, 2008 at 04:42 PM
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Andre Labonte wrote:
Not adding a lot of light! The dark shadown from the wall is GONE! And even the car shadows are greatly reduced. The Nation Guard sign is reflecting back.

However, the irony is I like the 3rd shot best, but, these pictures show what the SB900 is capable of.



When I posted my comment, only the first image was included in Terry's post and my comment is therefore limited to this image only. I don't know what your background is. I just finished a shoot today where as many as eight strobes were used at one time for a given shot. I know my ratios and I know what I'm seeing here.




Aug 23, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #20 · Got POP! SB-900 WOW


No worries Elan .... we're all friends here. I'm not going to fight over a strobe light.... but you get between me and my supper and buddy you're goin down.


Aug 23, 2008 at 09:02 PM
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