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Archive 2008 · "Admirable" blur samples

  
 
asbalyan
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p.27 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


Tested 4 lenses few months back,
-> Leica Elmarit-R 90mm f2.8
-> Jupiter-9 85mm f2
-> Nikkor-P 105mm f2.5
-> Nikon Series-E 100mm f2.8


You can browse the whole series at the Flickr set. The have uploaded the full size images and the results @f4 & f5.6 too.


@f2
Jupiter 85mm f2 @f2:


@f2.5 or f2.8

Leica Elmarit-R 90mm f2.8


Jupiter-9 85mm/f2


Nikkor-P 105mm/f2.5


Nikon Series-E 100mm/f2.8


This test was done before I got Helios-40 85mm f1.5 and I was not able to find mine Vivitar 100mm f2.8 at that time.



Dec 11, 2008 at 01:39 AM
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p.27 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


Paul, very nice shot with the CV. Great colors and bokeh.


Dec 11, 2008 at 02:44 AM
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p.27 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


lacksative

Thanks for posting these pics. Somtimes I get caught up in the manual alt lenses and forget how great some of the canon lenses can be.



Dec 11, 2008 at 05:46 AM
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p.27 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


Glad to be of service ziyadj

Even though it's a bit odd i love the bokeh the jena biotar produces. Thanks for posting dcmiller! I could get one for ~100€. Sure seems worth it



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:45 AM
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p.27 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


Two by the Contax 50/1.7 (modified to Nikon mount)... Unfortunately sRGB and the flickr mandatory "we will recompress the s**t out of your picture" kills all of the fine detail contast in the saturated yellows. In print or on a good wide-gamut screen they really pop!






Dec 11, 2008 at 08:46 AM
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p.27 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


Some Pentax-A 50/1.2 blur @ f/2.0:








Dec 11, 2008 at 10:07 AM
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p.27 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples


Nice Thrice!


Dec 11, 2008 at 10:20 AM
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p.27 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples


I had that lens before, SMC-A 50/1.2, and it was the only lens that beat Rokkor 58/1.2 on the sharpness wide open.


Dec 11, 2008 at 10:26 AM
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p.27 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples


The bokeh seems a little harsher, obviously due to higher degree of correction which would account for the sharpness wide open. Gets pretty nice at f/2.0 though


Dec 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM
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p.27 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples


Stuck an Oly Zuiko 55mm ƒ1.2 on the 20D today. I sold the 5D to make way for the MKII.
The lens seems to improve massively between ƒ1.2 and ƒ2.0, it's a shame there's no intermediate stops as it's quite a jump.
Very dull and overcast unfortunately. Will be hard to get a feel for the lens until the sun actually rises one of these days.

@ ƒ1.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/3099807327_4f81a3687b.jpg


@ ƒ2.0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/3100642962_bc52fa83dd.jpg



100% crop of the leaf pic @ ƒ2.0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3100677870_daf4a6dd5c_o.jpg



Dec 11, 2008 at 11:12 AM
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p.27 #11 · "Admirable" blur samples


I like the f/1.2 shot a little more, probably because of the interesting subject matter and composition. The bokeh looks like heat rising from the ground.

But I agree, most of these ultra-fast normals sharpen up a LOT one stop down.



Dec 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM
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p.27 #12 · "Admirable" blur samples


Large format "C. Friedrich Munchen Corygon 13.5 cm f/4.5" lens in Compur shutter on Canon 350d/rebelXT. To Make focussing work, I used M42 Bellows.

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/445096950_3c238b8057_b.jpg
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Dec 11, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Jonas B
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p.27 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples


Paul Yi wrote:
I had that lens before, SMC-A 50/1.2, and it was the only lens that beat Rokkor 58/1.2 on the sharpness wide open.


I have owned two of those A50/1.2 lenses, one NIB. They both performed very similar and they certainly didn't match the Rokkor 58/1.2 (owned one copy only, quickly sold it). The A50/1.2 is (in my experience) pretty soft wide open due to low contrast.

I guess I'm saying I don't understand this. Maybe your Rokkor was a bad one?

Both the SMC-P A50/1.2 and the Rokkor 58/1.2 make a lot of bright rings in the background OOF highlights, pretty much on par as I recall it. The Pentax foreground bokeh is softer than the edgy background bokeh. I have no opinion on the Rokkor in that case. My Rokkor had a terrible focus shift and if changing the aperture value one had to refocus. I noticed no focus shift with the A50/1.2.

OK, I'm just trying to describe what I found with these lenses.



Dec 11, 2008 at 03:29 PM
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p.27 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


I only referenced to the sharpness of SMC-A 50/1.2
My Rokkor is a very sharp copy. ( Out of 3 I had )
However, SMC-A 50/1.2 was sharper wide open. ( low contrast for sure )
However, Rokkor 58/1.2 gets bleedingly sharp by f/2.
As far as overall performance between the two, I kept Rokkor and sold the Pentax.
Rokkor really has a dual personality or character.





Dec 11, 2008 at 03:52 PM
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p.27 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples


Paul Yi wrote:
I only referenced to the sharpness of SMC-A 50/1.2
(...)


I see. Then it's about how we use the words only. Out of the two I would also pick chose the Rokkor.



Dec 11, 2008 at 06:49 PM
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p.27 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples


5D+OM 55/1.2 @ f/1.2:




Dec 11, 2008 at 11:19 PM
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p.27 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples


that has a nice look, I would like to see more :-D


Dec 11, 2008 at 11:28 PM
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p.27 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples


Here's another from the Pentax-A 50/1.2 sorry about the central subject.



I feel no rokkor envy



Dec 13, 2008 at 01:35 AM
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p.27 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


http://fc83.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/348/8/f/How_to_study_law___by_cainadamsson.jpg


More rokkor fun!

(that is a simple howto for those who wonder how law students do it :P )



Dec 13, 2008 at 07:00 PM
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p.27 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples


SMC Pentax FA77/1.8 Limited

What you see is a tricky situation, made up to torture the lens and make it fail. The problem is that it fell harder than some other lenses (including the flare SMCP A*85/1.4)

"Unprocessed" - shot raw and developed using ACR with everything set to neutral or zero or flat, and of course no sharpening.

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_1.8.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_2.0.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_2.8.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_4.0.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_5.6.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/chess_1_77_50crop_8.0.jpg



Dec 14, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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