Only nit pick is that I see quite a bit of noise in several of the shots particularly in the blacks. The look like they were underexposed really bad and pushed hard during processing. May just be my macbook pro screen.
Anyway, an excellent job of capturing the emotion of the day.
liza wrote:
Not ridiculous at all. In a fairly recent survey on DWF pro, many of the shooters who make their living in this manner shoot upwards of 5,000 exposures.
And don't be so quick to criticize. Emin has been recognized for his work on more than one occasion on David Beckstead's "Admired by Beckstead" blog. For David to take notice and publicly mention it is a huge honor.
sorry, I wasn't aware that someone mentioning you makes you immune to criticism.
Denis Reggie shoots over 8000 per event. Going to tell him he's wrong too? http://www.denisreggie.com/ click info and tell him your thoughts about his approach. I'm sure he'd love to hear it!
Oh... I shoot about 2,000 give or take and deliver 400 or so. For me it would be crazy! Not because I have such a high hit rate, but because I just have always done it this way.
The frames are filled with interest and color, overall good work on the keepers.
You've shot almost video speed, and keepers and interest are the task, as long as you can afford the depreciation and time costs associated with the enormous number of pics, you are fine.
I'd agree - little if any flash, 5d plus the 35 and 85 L are ideal, and with two future 5d markII, maybe it will be where the future goes...for the cost of just one ff nikon....
In the end, it is what makes the client and future clients happy while keeping your time down ....so in the end.....you did not do too much work and get burned out or not keep up with the next shoot
rocket wrote:
Wow, she's beautiful.
Yes sir! She definitely is. Very nice work eminavn, always look forward to your posts, 6500? LAWD! that is a bunch, but that is your style so go with it. Nice work. What's next?
sejanus wrote:
lol, you guys are easily impressed thats all I'll say. don't you see how crazy it is?
gone is the days of skill and timing, lets just shoot nonstop the whole day in the hope we get a few good ones! woohoo!
I think you should worry more about your own work and website and stop giving people a hard time I was sort of expecting Jessica Claire and Yervant too from reading all of your responses.
It is nice that you are contributing to the forum by giving feedback but now you are being obnoxious.
Btw, I agree with you that most here are very easily impressed but I also think you have very, very, very high confidence in your work Whatever floats your boat!
lol, I give up. you guys can think what you want and keep saying "wow, what a great shooter you are to take those 10-15 shots out of 6500"
btw tuannie I do have high confidence in my work - I believe you have to. and my booking schedule would indicate I'm doing something right. my last post here. my only grief with this guy is the 6500 shot issue. I think that if the shots he posted are the best out of 6500 shots then it's nothing to be congratulated about but you guys keep fluffing egos all you like!
sejanus wrote:
lol, I give up. you guys can think what you want and keep saying "wow, what a great shooter you are to take those 10-15 shots out of 6500"
btw tuannie I do have high confidence in my work - I believe you have to. and my booking schedule would indicate I'm doing something right. my last post here. my only grief with this guy is the 6500 shot issue. I think that if the shots he posted are the best out of 6500 shots then it's nothing to be congratulated about but you guys keep fluffing egos all you like!
He has good work-see his work where he fills the frame. http://www.pbase.com/eminilia/wedding
6500 shots isn't the issue if he keeps up with the work and covers his costs. Also, each event doesn't always present itself with the best photo ops...suggest giving him a break and just saying "good work"...which if the client is happy...and he made his keep...mission accomplished. I know I learned from the view of his good work. The use of primes and full frame and multiple cams with limted flash is the learning he provides. Suggest taking to good from the learning. No one is saying you need to say wow...
sejanus wrote:
lol, I give up. you guys can think what you want and keep saying "wow, what a great shooter you are to take those 10-15 shots out of 6500"
btw tuannie I do have high confidence in my work - I believe you have to. and my booking schedule would indicate I'm doing something right. my last post here. my only grief with this guy is the 6500 shot issue. I think that if the shots he posted are the best out of 6500 shots then it's nothing to be congratulated about but you guys keep fluffing egos all you like!
I understand your point. I am one to not disagree with you here. My point is that there is a fine line we shouldn't cross when criticizing. I personally think you made your point about machine gun shooting but I do feel you keeping coming back to repeat yourselves about what YOU ARE DOING is the best way is down right annoying. I also remember your response regarding RAW vs JPEG with the same outcome. Please don't judge how people shoot, what they use or how they use it unless they ask. I think the OP wanted us to look at his images.
I.E. "Ok, these are not great because..." is different from "WOW, 6500 and this is all your got to show" See my point?
I don't know if you sense the sarcasm in my response it does demonstrates how well it will be received by others.
BTW, you are not immune to criticism so I hope you take this well. From your responses, I really expect something like Jessica Claire or Yervant. I also thought your website is not up to the caliber of someone who is ahead of the game and shoots 80 wedding a year (from what I remember you shared with us).
sejanus wrote:
All I was doing is replying to messages directly at me (I think). And I like my website
Understand but I also feel this very forum is not the best way to communicate at times. People tend to twist the words and things are taken way out of context.
Hey everyone. Eminavn I love the photos. The bride is beautiful, how you captured both North American traditional culture with the Indian culture is great. I love all of the photos but #4 stood out to me. Simple and I think powerful. Some photos for me to aspire to.
Don't listen to the haters, a lot of criticism in here that is absolutely negative. Who cares how many photos, how many cameras etc. I am really hesitant to hit up this part of the forum due to the lack of constructive criticism and honestly the wedding photography forum is best viewed if you ignore 90% of the comments. It's too bad because you are all amazing photographers but the attitudes get in the way of the art.
"If you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all"
First. I think those shots are gorgeous. You did a great job, as usual. They wil be thrilled to see those, for sure.
Now... I won't post how many shots I take in a day for no other reason than the moment or mood strikes me, never-mind when I'm actually working! I'm of the state of mind that I am always learning. Learning about lighting, angles, my gear, my subjects and my creativity. I usually stumble upon some delightfully unplanned, amazingly captured shots simply because I keep moving and keep seeing new things to snap at. Which is how I learn for all the next times.
I certainly wouldn't point fingers at someone because they choose to stop looking for more shots to capture and limit themselves, but I would hope they'd be at least open minded enough to not scoff at those who choose to keep looking for more.
well I just looked at your website eminavn..... just $#@% amazing work, ..... you just rock..... don't care its 6500 pics or 9000 you did a great job... and your work is truly ammmazing.... keep 'em coming....
Mike Mahoney wrote:
Take a look at Eminvan's previous posts here, or his website, or his Pbase site .. he is truly a wonderful and talented photographer with a great eye. So 60 or 6,000, he makes great photos.
Me I take maybe 700 at a 10 hour wedding.
Everyone is different in their way of shooting, what matters is how the photos look when delivered to the bride.
I am another one who likes to have multiple cameras around my neck and take more than I should. It leaves me with more options later on. The downside is definitely going through all of the photos but in the end I have killer photos that exceed my clients expectations.
thanks for sharing!
eminavn wrote:
if any of this cameras http://www.red.com
will be comparing to Nikon,Canon (price and size)
i don't think a second to replace all my equipment for this.
Please read your post after 3-5 years from now.
When i choose my images
the first looking I'm looking for composition and then looking for focus and sharpness.
I'm not a genius as many on this board and i can't to shoot 100 out from 100.
Good captures, and what a gorgeous, gorgeous bride! My opnly wish is that you posted some frames that showed off her beautiful face and figure.
I think your criteria for shooting is on the mark. I would only add two elements: 1. light. 2. emotion 3. composition. 4. focus.
To each his own, but it's been my experience that I find that amateurs obsess about focus, while professionals think about light.
Ray Soemarsono wrote:
The question is: why 3 different cameras?
Why not apparently.
I agree that there are some excellent images here. I agree that there are some not so excellent images here.
I agree that the bride is beautiful and so are the days events.
I agree that when it comes to shooting style and number of images, it is personal preference.
But mostly, I agree that 6500 images is insane. Maybe not for you, but definately for me.
I was sort of expecting Jessica Claire and Yervant too from reading all of your responses.
" See my point?
I'm of the state of mind that I am always learning. Learning about lighting, angles, my gear, my subjects and my creativity. I usually stumble upon some delightfully unplanned, amazingly captured shots simply because I keep moving and keep seeing new things to snap at. Which is how I learn for all the next times.