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Sam Hassas
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p.2 #1 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Your theory won't work in my market. Folks around here want the shallow DOF look that has come to be give the feel of of a quality image. F11 belongs on a landscape image. No magic at F11. Point and shoots end up snaping at F11.

I want to see some work from this phantom studio in Greece you speak of. 20 in the business, they gotta have a website right?

~Sam



Mar 24, 2008 at 05:18 PM
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p.2 #2 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


I shoot at f/8 all the time. Same with f/11. Nothing wrong with it. If you're shooting headshots on a 135L/FF, f/8 is still going to get you slightly soft ears, so its not like one f/stop fits all situations. I can get quite shallow on my macro lens at f/8, and f/2.8 can be plenty of DOF at 24mm in many cases.....

I think the issue here is that my f/1.2 lens works perfectly well at f/16. However, an f/4 lens doesn't shoot very well at f/2. If lots of DOF works for you and your clients: more power to you... But there are VERY few markets internationally where one can be consistently successful without even the option of going shallow. I counsel young photographers to buy 2.8 or faster lenses because they give the most flexibility, not because they should shoot wide open 100% of the time.

Edited on Mar 24, 2008 at 05:44 PM



Mar 24, 2008 at 05:40 PM
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p.2 #3 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


All the more reason for me to NOT shoot like that. I'll take being "different", and booking the kind of clients I like because they aren't looking for the Master-Blaster-f/11-Flasher look.

But I'm glad your clients are happy, and you're doing the industry good. Just don't tell everyone they need to shoot like that



Mar 24, 2008 at 09:32 PM
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p.2 #4 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


You can pry my 1.4 and 1.2 lenses out of my cold, dead fingers...


Mar 24, 2008 at 09:36 PM
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p.2 #5 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


^^^ Where do you live?

Edited on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:29 PM



Mar 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM
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p.2 #6 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Utilize whatever it takes to do what you are trying to do/convey. To argue the extreme ends of the spectrum is futile.




Mar 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM
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p.2 #7 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Gogos wrote:
This company has been in business for 20yrs, and they have been providing a steady living for 5 photographers with no complaints.



WalMart has been in business for 46 years too.

Neiman Marcus has been in business for 101 years.

Both provide a similar service.

Which one would you rather work for?



Mar 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM
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p.2 #8 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


bacilonur,

F8 at iso 200 singles out the couple, and the ambient light isn't an issue here.

G,



Mar 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM
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p.2 #9 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


technocraft wrote:
You can pry my 1.4 and 1.2 lenses out of my cold, dead fingers...


yeah that.



Mar 25, 2008 at 12:24 AM
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p.2 #10 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


He said Greece, but the profile country is canada.


Mar 25, 2008 at 01:53 AM
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p.2 #11 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Not really sure what the point of this is. You're proud that you're making robot photos. Takes all sorts...


Mar 25, 2008 at 04:07 AM
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p.2 #12 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


SHIT! I just bought another 2.8 lens
DAMN IT now im going to have to sell it for a loss and get myself a kit lens



Mar 25, 2008 at 04:25 AM
Marcus Watts
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p.2 #13 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Can you link to some samples of the work produced.
It may be great but i would guess it is a basic set of images nothing high quality.
People make successful business all the time by creating a medium to low level product and finding that level of client in the market.



Mar 25, 2008 at 04:30 AM
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p.2 #14 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Mindless dogma is bad. Two factions go to war. Black and white. f2 isn't always great, f8 isn't always lol bad. Hard to imagine having to say that. f8 isn't a crime. Personally I rather like a ever shifting range of shades of gray sliding back and forth as needed all day, it's more interesting.

Edited on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:38 AM



Mar 25, 2008 at 08:36 AM
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p.2 #15 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Gogos wrote:
It's the best for them and their clients BarnDog.

G,



I would use the word "enough" in place of "best." There are fine artists for a few, and Thomas Kinkade for the masses. I might not like it, but I've got to admit he makes more than me. It's about where your priorities are. And, honestly, depending on the circumstances, art may be so grander a priority than putting food on your family.

Edited on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:15 AM



Mar 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM
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p.2 #16 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


My f/1.4 and 1.2 lenses will stop down on command when I want to. There's a time and place for everything, fast glass gives you options.


Mar 25, 2008 at 10:16 AM
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p.2 #17 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


andrew81 wrote:
SHIT! I just bought another 2.8 lens
DAMN IT now im going to have to sell it for a loss and get myself a kit lens


Okay I'll buy it! Err what's that?? Oh! No reason! Um I want it for my collection... I won't actually use it, the shame is just not worth it!



Mar 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM
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p.2 #18 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Matt Graves wrote:
WalMart has been in business for 46 years too.

Neiman Marcus has been in business for 101 years.

Both provide a similar service.

Which one would you rather work for?


Wal-mart in a heartbeat. The incentive programs and loyalty rewards - coupled with the great health care and drug benefits - they win hands-down.



Mar 25, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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p.2 #19 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


Wal-mart doesn't carry my Rock & Republic jeans. But I could easily sue Wal-mart for low wages down the line. Dilemma.


Mar 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM
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p.2 #20 · Get off the low light, large aperature, high iso wagon...


technocraft wrote:
You can pry my 1.4 and 1.2 lenses out of my cold, dead fingers...


amen.



Mar 25, 2008 at 01:18 PM
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