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jamesf99
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Chris Noyes wrote:
My bad. There's one negative report. Any more out there? I'd be (more) interested to hear about problems with the Induro CF pods.

With the experience I've had, I certainly wouldn't write-off the whole brand based on one poor review, or any of the amplified reviews I have seen in the past year.



Actually Chris, there are a lot more. If you start searching, then you'll find them.

No one wants to bash gear that could be a cost effective replacement for what some find "over priced", and I'm not criticizing your judgment, but in this case I honestly believe most serious users will be better served by buying a good tripod the first time.

The last time I looked, the prices of Benro/Induro were so high as to be laughable. They were pricing at the "professional" level, but offering inferior goods. Not a good thing. Everyone wants to get a good deal, but I wouldn't' buy one of their products at any price..



Mar 24, 2009 at 01:01 PM
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p.4 #2 · induro's tripod???


I think Manfrotto is still the undeniable value leader -- tough gear, lasts forever, and good customer service. For sturdy support on a budget, I don't think anything beats them. Gitzo aluminum legs are worth considering, too -- especially if you buy used, you can get lots of support for not a huge expense. There are brand new Gitzo 3-series aluminum legs on the Bogen outlet for $225. There's nothing better for that kind of money.

Manfrotto's CF options aren't all that light, which is probably part of why people drift over to the Benro/Induro/Dynatran stuff. If weight is a crucial issue, then Feisol is probably the next good possibility. Not Gitzo-level support or reliability, but a better reputation than B/I/D.



Mar 24, 2009 at 01:17 PM
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I try not to get too deeply into these "discussions", much like the UV filter v. no UV filter threads, but once in a while, out of boredom I'll jump in. So, here goes.

A few months back I was in my garage and had both of my Gitzo's completely disassembled for cleaning and lubrication - maybe a once/year ritual. My friend showed up, and when he saw what I was doing, he asked if he might bring by his Induro for similar servicing (and to bum some of my silicone grease for the hinges and leg joints). I don't know the model number of his Induro, but it's a clone of the Gitzo 2-series, it's a C2-something, and about 2 years old. My Gitzo is a G1257.

For comparison, I can describe that my Gitzo uses stainless steel bolts, screwed from each side of the leg hinge, into a freely-rotating stainless steel sleeve. Very durable, easy to adjust for tension, tough to strip, and if replacement is necessary, there would have been no damage to the tripod's spider. His Induro has aluminum bolts, screwed directly into the spider. They're tough to adjust for tension, and trust me, if you strip one (either a bolt, or hole in the spider), you're screwed (no pun intended).

Now the leg locks. The Gitzo has very fine threads, beautifully-machined and anodized, the locks are wonderfully smooth to twist, and only 1/8 to 1/4 turn is required to fully lock them. The Induro threads are rougher, coarsely-threaded, and about 1 full turn is required to lock them tightly. The rubber grip already slips on a few of them, and there were bits of aluminum "dust" visible in the threads, indicative of wear.

The legs themselves are also quite different between the two brands. The Gitzo's are glassy smooth, both inside and out, and feel like cool metal to the touch. There are no seams or layers visible. The Induro legs feel like stiff plastic, seams can be felt inside, glue was visible on two of the leg joints, and when the legs are installed and in the closed position, one of them appeared very, very slightly out of parallel with the other two.

Now, I'll also say that my friend is a very casual tripod user, mostly around his home or in local parks/beaches, while I often fly/hike with mine, and I use it very often. My gear is also much heavier and more diverse, and when I bought this tripod, I fully intended for it to last me a lifetime. In short, for his uses, my friend's Induro really does work OK, and he's happy enough with it. How long will it last? I'm no fortune teller, but as I mentioned, build quality is very much lower, and there is already wear seen in the leg locks. But the real killer is this. I bought my G1257 here on FM used (mint condition, never used outside, box, tools, etc.) last year (as an upgrade to my older G1228) for $425 shipped/PayPal'd. New price would have been ~$575 from B&H. My friend paid $380-something for his Induro. Even if I had purchased the Gitzo new, the cost difference would have been well worth it, obviously, both in predicted longevity and resale value. Add to that, ease of use, vibration dampening, built-in R&D, and weight capacity over the Induro and other clones from China. The Gitzo's aren't for everyone, but neither are the Induro's, and clearly the biggest difference is in value. For <$200, maybe the Induro could be recommended for a casual user, but certainly not at their current pricing structure, at least IMO. I had a Feisol 3401, which had much nicer build quality, and it was much less expensive, and I also owned a Velbon A540 (like a 1-series Gitzo) which was also of much higher quality than the Induro, and it was ~$200.



Mar 24, 2009 at 03:18 PM
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p.4 #4 · induro's tripod???


The only reason I chime in on these threads is to disabuse people of the notion that there is some magic pixie dust that makes a $350 Induro different from a $250 Benro or a $79 Amvona/Dynatran.

At Dynatran/Amvona prices, these can be viable cheap options. Not great, but for light use in certain circumstances, ok. I had a Dynatran ballhead that wasn't a bad deal at all for the $50 I paid for it. What's unconscionable is that local camera shops have latched onto Induro as a near-premium house brand. I'm sure their profits on this stuff are huge, and they sell it with lots of sober advice about investing in high quality gear that is a great deal because it's 20% cheaper than Gitzo.

And then the local shops wonder why we don't trust them.



Mar 24, 2009 at 08:53 PM
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Ya, but to get back to the OP, a 400/2.8 requires more than a "light use" tripod.




Mar 25, 2009 at 05:49 PM
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GeneO wrote:
Ya, but to get back to the OP, a 400/2.8 requires more than a "light use" tripod.


Agreed. I'm not defending them -- just qualifying my criticism.

This is a year old thread. The OP got lots of advice to get, at minimum, a 3-series Gitzo. Didn't seem like he liked that advice, and I don't think he ever chimed back in.



Mar 25, 2009 at 06:02 PM
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monochrome wrote:
Induro isn't a cheap tripod, they make very good one's. I have a CX214 that I use when I'm using my big ass Gitzo.



When you say "Induro isn't a cheap tripod" I'd either quality that or modify it to say

"Induro isn't an [inexpensive] tripod" but it certainly is a "cheap" tripod.

I think this is a dead issue and it's just getting the word out to everyone which will take time. Sometimes, there really isn't a free lunch, Easter Bunny, or Santa Clause..



Mar 26, 2009 at 07:50 AM
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