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p.3 #1 · Anyone really like/love their 17-85?


danmitchell wrote:
Sharp print at 20 x 30 from the EFS 17-85? I'd love to see that! That isn't exactly easy with more sophisticated equipment...

Dan


No prob, shoot it at f/8 to f/11. A man's got to know his limitations (or his equipment's limitations in this case.)

Photography: the art of compromise. Great photography: knowing what to compromise.




Mar 30, 2008 at 11:42 PM
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p.3 #2 · Anyone really like/love their 17-85?


The editing rules of posts of this forum have changed since my last visit here.

Edited by Koivulehto on Apr 01, 2008 at 03:55 PM GMT (Reason: Removal of useless post)



Mar 31, 2008 at 11:02 AM
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p.3 #3 · Anyone really like/love their 17-85?


Hey, I know that stuff. I understand the relationship between aperture and resolution (both theoretically and from testing all of my lenses). I get very "sharp" images from my current gear that can be printed at quite large sizes, so I do understand how to make that happen.

It isn't as easy as "just shoot at f/8 to f/11." In fact, shooting at f/11 is _not_ the best choice for maximum resolution on a crop sensor body since diffraction blur can become an issue beyond about f/8. (f/11 or even f/16 can be fine choice on a FF body.)

From my own extensive experience with the 17-85mm lens I just can't imagine that it would produce the sharpness that I expect in a 20 x 30 inch print - you did mean inches not centimeters, right? I get that kind of sharpness from my current gear and careful shooting technique plus suitable post-processing, but even then it isn't a slam dunk - it requires care and attention to detail. I never came close to that with the EFS 17-85.

Here is an example of a photograph that I made with the EFS 17-85 lens on a crop body a few years ago. It looks pretty sharp in this small jpg and even in a letter size print. But it barely holds up as a 12 x 18 print, and then only with some extensive post-processing in PS - and the presumption that the viewer will not inspect it too closely. I would not sell a print that large from this image without making absolutely sure that the buyer understood this.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2377838448_17b3cc667e_o.jpg

With the same camera but higher quality lenses I produced black and white prints at 16 x 24 that looked quite sharp enough to sell.

Dan

. Dark Slider wrote:
No prob, shoot it at f/8 to f/11. A man's got to know his limitations (or his equipment's limitations in this case.)

Photography: the art of compromise. Great photography: knowing what to compromise.





Mar 31, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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