Oh, man... now even more people will be trying to download those images... It's already slow enough... OK, you all stop trying to view those samples...
I'm very impressed with these samples... particularly the green bottle of water shot at 3200 ISO with noise reduction off... Wow... I don't think my 300D images look that good even at 400 ISO... but then lighting can play a big role in noise I think... but either way, I really hardly ever shoot above 400 ISO on my 300D due to noise... and if those samples are a good representation of the 40D's performance then I'll not be hesitating to shoot at 1600 or even 3200 on my 40D when I get it...
I used my 30D in bad weather with no problems. But I still would recommend a shower cap to keep the bulk of the rain off. People put to much into the whole weather sealing IMO. Even with my 1 series I am carefull. Moisture damage is not covered under warranty why risk it.
Bruce Sawle wrote:
I used my 30D in bad weather with no problems. But I still would recommend a shower cap to keep the bulk of the rain off. People put to much into the whole weather sealing IMO. Even with my 1 series I am carefull. Moisture damage is not covered under warranty why risk it.
It is covered by insurance and I am insured all my gear. Anyway, I am sure that new 40D will survive longer in bad conditions than 30D, that is why I am asking.
Navyblue wrote:
Weather sealing is the last line of defence, and you don't want to bank on it. Remember why rain cover or even underwater casing exist.
Also, buy lenses that suits what you do, no point having a weather sealed lens that otherwise doesn't suit your need.
Underwater is not a question everybody know that.
Example of conditions I hope 40D will help:
- I am getting under rain conditions suddenly.
- Travel somewhere where lots of dust/fog/humid.
- Some sudden water splash, etc
I saw somewhere else that someone asked Canon how good the weather sealing is. And their answer was that it is only sealed around the CF card and battery, (ie, no sealing around buttons and dials) it may cause problem if the camera is used in light rain....
khiromu wrote:
...it is only sealed around the CF card and battery, (ie, no sealing around buttons and dials)...
This exactly what I've read in the specs. That's barely better than the 30d, and certainly no where near the weather sealing of a 1-series body.
I personally think the 40d looks like it could be a very nice camera. But if one is buying it for the weather sealing thinking it's gonna be up to par with a 1-series I'd say they're going to be sorely disappointed. If you want the weather sealing of a 1-series it still seems as though you have to buy a 1-series.
Although I think the 40D will be a fine camera and I will most likely buy it after the 1st of the year, I think Canon made a big mistake not completely weather sealing it.
I think it's a nice addition and better than nothing. Yet, I think I'd never feel really comfortable shooting in rain even if it were completely sealed, why take the risk? Why not use a shower cap to start with? I remember seeing pro's during a rainy football match using 1D's with plastic bags over them, and they're completely sealed... It's better than nothing, but highly overrated imo.
I belive it will be much closer to the 30D than the 1 series if you compare the weather sealing.
But weather sealing (IMO) is much over-rated for most people here. My camera and most of my lenses have it, but it's not a big deal 99% of the time. Very few people have any real advatage of it
Lars Johnsson wrote:
I believe it will be much closer to the 30D than the 1 series if you compare the weather sealing.
Copy that. I think they improved the parts that hardly needed any improvement... Shooting in Death Valley or the Namibian desert I never had problems with the "improved" parts - dials and buttons were more troublesome but survived anyways. Still, I'd like to have sealing there instead of in my battery door. Marketing, if you ask me. Look to a 1D(s) if you like sealing.
I agree with both of you, it is mostly over rated, but on the spec sheet it looks good, and is another area where the 40D will be seen lacking compared to the Nikons..
However living in Florida I can tell you that in the summer I do frequently get caught in brief isolated showers, so it would be nice to have- but it is in no way a deal breaker for me.
DynoMoHum wrote:
Oh, man... now even more people will be trying to download those images... It's already slow enough... OK, you all stop trying to view those samples...
I'm very impressed with these samples... particularly the green bottle of water shot at 3200 ISO with noise reduction off... Wow... I don't think my 300D images look that good even at 400 ISO... but then lighting can play a big role in noise I think... but either way, I really hardly ever shoot above 400 ISO on my 300D due to noise... and if those samples are a good representation of the 40D's performance then I'll not be hesitating to shoot at 1600 or even 3200 on my 40D when I get it...
I have a 300D as well and I'm a bit underwhelmed by these samples to be honest and expected more. I'd say the 40D noise is 1 or 1.5 stops better than the 300D, but I've also noticed that the noise looks more processed with the luminance noise being more smeared than the more grainy 300D noise. Also had a look at some 30D shots at ISO 3200 and they looked kind of similar. Let's see how it fares with noise reduction on...
The photos are very cool, thanks for the link, but I'd still like to see ISO1600 and ISO3200 photos in conditions where they're needed, not in bright daylight
Like, a not-well-lit-room, or night shot Or maybe a show, but I saw what I wanted... it's a tad soft with the 100mm f2.8 macro on, but I doubt I'd be any better with the Nikon D300 and Nikor 60mm Macro, so... that's the best I can get now, will do for my needs, at least I could see that.
But I can't stop thinking if the softness I noticed is on the photo, the autofocus, or the camera itself. And also, that's me being rigid about it.
Navyblue wrote:
Weather sealing is the last line of defence, and you don't want to bank on it. Remember why rain cover or even underwater casing exist.
Also, buy lenses that suits what you do, no point having a weather sealed lens that otherwise doesn't suit your need.
Exactly, there is a very very fine line between a camera surviving 100% ok from exposure and becoming a $1500+ paperweight... Do you feel lucky?
My 10d was exposed by accident to a bit of saltwater splash and light drizzle several times. Even years after the incident I never had any problems with that camera. But ive heard of ruined $8000 1Ds's with slight exposure also to water so you never really know...
