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 p.2 #17 · 'Master' EF 16–35mm f/2.8L II USM Thread | |
BeeMan458 wrote:
"The cz21 is a benchmarked data point."
So's a Lamborghini.
Why does it bother you so much?
Because it's a worn out refrain, that's patently lame on it's face, that's gotten real old over the years.
"My jet goes faster than your prop plane."
So what. Do you see how patently stupid the above comment is. No duh. I'd be surprised if the jet didn't go faster.
My prime's better than your zoom. "Well gee Marie, do you think."
If you're going benchmark, then benchmark the same kinda lense; apples to apples and if you want oranges, then oranges to oranges. Pretty simple, isn't it.
My thirty-two footer is taller than your twenty-four foot ladder. So what.
What's happening here, folks have lost their mind over their love for the CZ21 and it's perverted at this point for the stupidity of it all.
Compare primes to primes and zooms to zooms and if a zoom is the best in it's class, then so be it but to try and compare a top college football team to a Super Bowl winner is stupid on it's face, just as comparing the CZ21 to the 16-35L is on it's face, "stupid." It's like every time you comment about your big screen at home, some nerd comes in and says, my screens bigger. "But will your bigger big screen fit this enclosure?" After awhile, the absurdity of it all gets old and begins to grate.
You buy a zoom for it's zooming characteristics, understanding that there's an image quality trade off. A CZ21, even though a benchmark for a prime, ain't a benchmark for a zoom, no matter how much one chooses to jump up and down. If you need image quality that's better than a zoom, buy a prime. If you need better than pedestrian, buy exotic. Pretty simple, isn't it. We "all" know this to be a "fact," so why the need for the obvious refrain, unless a noob.
In other words, it's an immature, childish, on it's face, "stupid," irrelevant argument.
And for the PC crowd who have trouble with using the English language for the descriptor that it was intended:
Dictionary.com, stupid:
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
There is nothing quick or keen of mind when constantly trying to compare a zoom to a prime and "trying" to continually compare the two genres is "dull" minded at best; unless trying to prove a point such as the CZ21 is better at 21mm's then the 16-35L which isn't happening because nobody's arguing this point.
Hope my above is clear enough for those who are unable to understand how "stupid" these kinds of comments and arguments are and now you know how I really feel on this matter. 
Edited by BeeMan458 on Feb 23, 2007 at 08:33 AM GMT...Show more →
Couldnt agree more! Well said.
PS
My 16-35 mk1 is my most used/abused lens.. it takes a daily beating, but it has paid its way many times over.. my customers arnt looking at the corners of their piks with a magnifying glass...
When the time comes I wont think twice about getting the mkII...
PPS
the CZ21 sucks big time at 16mm 
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