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p.16 #1 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I quite like the way the diopter adjustment is "hidden" behind the eyecup - I have messed up so many shots on my 30D by using manual focus with the diopter having been shifted off normal. Sorry if that's a pain for any of you that wear glasses - but to me that's just another small improvement that makes this 1DIII look like such a well thought out camera. I also like that they've gone with more of the "prosumer" UI.


Feb 25, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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ctrl-alt-grant wrote:
I quite like the way the diopter adjustment is "hidden" behind the eyecup - I have messed up so many shots on my 30D by using manual focus with the diopter having been shifted off normal.


The diopter adjustment on the 30D is behind the eyecup in the same spot as the 1D3. I don't see how it can be accidentally changed during manual focus on the 30D.



Feb 25, 2007 at 11:16 PM
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p.16 #3 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Pondria wrote:
With Live mode, I think the following things can be useful.
1. With my SONY P&S, it is very handy to see the scene with the simulated brightness even when the scene is dark.


Now that's a great point that hasn't been brought up yet. I've used ISO 3200 exposures of a second or two to see in the dark before sunrise. It's a great way to see what's in front of you when it's too dark for your eyes to actually see anything at all.

The fact that Live View simulates proper exposure will essentially give you night vision. Actually, I wonder just how sensitive it is and if it can actually serve this purpose in real-time. If so, cool!!



Feb 25, 2007 at 11:32 PM
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p.16 #4 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Ariel Bravy wrote:
Now that's a great point that hasn't been brought up yet. I've used ISO 3200 exposures of a second or two to see in the dark before sunrise. It's a great way to see what's in front of you when it's too dark for your eyes to actually see anything at all.

The fact that Live View simulates proper exposure will essentially give you night vision. Actually, I wonder just how sensitive it is and if it can actually serve this purpose in real-time. If so, cool!!


Well, SONY actually calls it Night Vision with the further option to lift the IR filter up




Feb 25, 2007 at 11:45 PM
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p.16 #5 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


RJJR wrote:
The diopter adjustment on the 30D is behind the eyecup in the same spot as the 1D3. I don't see how it can be accidentally changed during manual focus on the 30D.


The 1D3 appears to have the diopter adjustment totally enclosed behind the eyecup - on my 30D it is only partially covered by the eyecup meaning that you don't have to remove the eyecup assembly to adjust the diopter. Because it sticks out on the 30D it's very easy to accidently rotate the knob when getting camera in/ out of bag. If you're shooting MF and you don't check the diopter is on center you've just wasted shots.

--Grant



Feb 25, 2007 at 11:46 PM
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p.16 #6 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


No, I'm not asking for advice on which to buy. A poster over on that other forum asked this question (as advice on which to buy) and was beaten senseless within minutes.

I'm wondering how many will now see the Mark III as a valid alternative to the 5D in terms of resolution and image quality. While the 5D still holds a 2 mp advantage, the improvements in the D3's sensor and noise reduction may come close to negating that slim advantage. If this turns out to be the case (after more rigorous real-world comparisons are done), will this make the choice between the 5D and the Mark III more difficult?

Or do size, price, and usage considerations still make the choice more simple than I am imagining? Obviously, a component of users will always get the lesser-expensive camera. But it seems to me that the Mark III may be able to break into the studio camera side of the business, and among users who don't see price as the make-or-break factor in camera selection, does this open up a broader market for Canon with their "sport" 1-series?

Looks to me like the decision is no longer as cut-and-dried as it was a week ago. I don't pretend to have all the answers, this is just my own perspective and I do not see it as inviolable.



Feb 25, 2007 at 11:50 PM
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p.16 #7 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


"Because it sticks out on the 30D it's very easy to accidently rotate the knob when getting camera in/ out of bag. If you're shooting MF and you don't check the diopter is on center you've just wasted shots."

Really? That's something I've never encountered with my 20D (the diopter is in the same location and as exposed as on the 30D). But it's a set and forget item for me so the 1D3 style wouldn't be a burden.





Feb 26, 2007 at 12:03 AM
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p.16 #8 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


After reading a bit about the new 1DmkIII , it sounds like Canon is listening (and reading) what the sports photographer is after.
I guess at the moment they are reading this forum and others like it, to see how well the news of this camera has gone down . My thought are they are still working on a final price , the more we like it ,the more they can push the price . Thus reducing the price fall of the 1Dmkii and N , which i was hoping was going to be quite a bit :-)
ps The mkIII looks a really nice camera !!!!



Feb 26, 2007 at 12:52 AM
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p.16 #9 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I already have a 5D, and was waiting to see if the Canon announcement would be about another full frame camera. The 1DIII announcement is of no interest to me, despite the great new technologies inside the 1DIII, because it is not full frame. It really is that simple! (For some of us. )

P.S. This is not a "cost" decision. I can afford the 1DIII, it is just no good to me for what I do.



Feb 26, 2007 at 12:56 AM
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p.16 #10 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


No amount of bells and whistle will make a 1.3x camera a FF one.



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:21 AM
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p.16 #11 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


redal wrote:
My thought are they are still working on a final price , the more we like it ,the more they can push the price .


In that case, we better pretend he hate the 1D3!



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:21 AM
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redal wrote:
. My thought are they are still working on a final price , the more we like it ,the more they can push the price .

I hate it. only 10MP is not enough Too bulky. They should've made it 5D size. Hard to carry a life-size brick with you everywhere.



Feb 26, 2007 at 01:35 AM
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p.16 #13 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


They are quite different cameras, with quite different strengths. For the types of photography where the 5D is ideal, the new camera generally won't help much - and vice versa.


Feb 26, 2007 at 01:45 AM
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p.16 #14 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I had a 5D, and didnt like the size at all......maybe thats just me, but the 1 series feels fabulous...IMO


Feb 26, 2007 at 02:42 AM
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p.16 #15 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Like Rudi the full frame aspect of the 5D is what blows my hair back so no I wouldn't buy the mk3 over the 5D. I am however looking forward to the replacement to the 1Dsm2 as I would like to get a secondhand one at the sbsequent drop in price! I'm a landscape shooter so full frame and high mp is a priority - 10fps is a pointless waste of time for me.


Feb 26, 2007 at 03:58 AM
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p.16 #16 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Gyroscope wrote:
I am however looking forward to the replacement to the 1Dsm2 as I would like to get a secondhand one at the sbsequent drop in price!


I agree.

Be interesting to see what the new 5D offers, too.



Feb 26, 2007 at 04:17 AM
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p.16 #17 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Pondria wrote:
Can it (framing) be achieved with focusing screens with grids ?

With Live mode, I think the following things can be useful.
1. With my SONY P&S, it is very handy to see the scene with the simulated brightness even when the scene is dark.
2. I am wondering if this can be helpful for critical focus. With proper zoom-in, it may.
3. Commercial computer Kiosk with preset up ( like Passport photos )

Dunno if they have grids, I seem to remember that they did, but they have the aspect ratio lies available, so you should be able to use that as a sort of informal grid
Simulated brightness is also allowed for, AFAIK
One of the main ideas of the live-view is critical focus for macros and so on, it should be fine with it's 10x zoom



Feb 26, 2007 at 04:30 AM
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p.16 #18 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Did anyone aleady mention that the joystick does not allow you to select focus points...no matter what CF you use? Fantastic camera, but I`really want to use the joystick for AF point selection!
Stefan



Feb 26, 2007 at 04:39 AM
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p.16 #19 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I was thinking of getting the mark III due to the DR and ISO improvements which I welcome very much, but I just walk around with my camera over my shoulder a lot and love the size of the 5D. And the image quality rarely creates any problems for me anyway. I am keeping my 5D.


Feb 26, 2007 at 04:46 AM
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p.16 #20 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Surely the best answer to this question is currently none of us really know.

There has been no actual testing of the 1D3 by real-world people in real-world situations, justthe few samples currently available.

It may be the new style sensor will equal or even surpass the superb 5D, but then again it may not.

I think it is WAY too early to speculate

David



Feb 26, 2007 at 04:59 AM
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