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pascal03
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p.1 #1 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Maybe this has more to do with personal preference, but I am curious what FM shooters have held as the best 35mm film camera they have ever used. I was wondering which manufacturer/model would qualify as the best 35mm camera ever made - including the SLR & Rangefinder in this.

Qualities to consider:

Metering - allways accurate and perfect for 95% of the time
Build - well constructed, weather proofing perhaps, etc.
Ease of use - once you get familiar with it, you are able to use the camera with your eyes closed (in a matter of speaking)
Functionality/features - the latest and greatest technology like that on the Nikon F6 or Canon 1VHS or the simple cloth shutter of the Leica's. Minolta had some very high tech bodies at one time.

I have used Canon, Nikon, Contax, Hassleblad, Olympus, Minolta, and Pentax.

I understand the glass plays a major role in the final image and sets one system apart from the other. For instance, the Leica glass and Zeiss glass are in a whole different world from the Canon or Nikon glass. But this is strictly for the Camera body itself. The canon's could not hold a candle to the Contax or Nikon SLR's. The later Minolta's were quite high tech but not very practical to me. The Leica has a love or hate relationship. etc. etc.

So from a list of modern (electronic) SLR's and rangefinder's, which would you consider the best you have ever used and why. Obviously I have not listed every single SLR ever made, so please provide a model# and why you think it was the best camera you used.

Nikon: F3hp, F4s, N90, N8008, F5, F6, etc.
Canon: 1nRS, 1V, 3, etc
Contax: N1, Nx, AX, RTS II, RTS III, etc.
Hassleblad: xPan I or II
Leica: M4 thru M7
Contax: G1 - G2
Pentax: MZ-S, PZ-1P, ZX-5N, 7, etc.
Minlota: Maxxum 5, 7, 9, etc.
Yashica: ?
Olympus: ?


For me, what felt like an extension of my arm and provided my favorite/best images came from Contax or Nikon. More specifically, the Contax RTS III, N1, G2 and the Nikon F3hp & F4s.

The Contax RTS or N system is easy to use and once you get used to it, all functions of the camera body come almost naturally letting me focus on the image through the viewfinder. The knobs were big and easy to access. The same with the Nikon's. I felt the Nikon is the more high tech version of the Contax. It was faster and the body was built tough. With all it's bells and whistles and the extremely ergonomic feel, the Nikon F4s was hard to beat. The newer camera bodies are letting go of the knobs and ready access wheels and going for a more menu driven system which I am begining to really hate.



Edited by pascal03 on Nov 22, 2006 at 07:33 PM GMT



Nov 22, 2006 at 01:07 PM
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p.1 #2 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


you should remove name "SLR" from the title

What I have now, Olympus Om-1 and Leica M4 are best cameras



Nov 22, 2006 at 01:14 PM
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p.1 #3 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I would have to vote for the OM-1/2.

The OM-1 is a great manual-metering camera that just does what you want (is there another camera that has the shutter-speed "dial" on the lens mount, and setup so it operates exactly like the aperture ring?).

The OM-2 continues the tradition, but with off-the-film shutter-priority exposure added.
From an ergonomics perspective, the best thing I liked about the OM-2 was that when you put it manual-metering mode it looks and operates just like the OM-1. No "chase the numbers" or LEDs to try and set the exposure - just center the needle! (and don't forget the 1/3 and 1/2 stop over/under exposure marks on the needle-bracket).

Cheers,

Geoff S.



Nov 22, 2006 at 01:17 PM
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p.1 #4 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I had both an OM-1n and an OM-2n and I liked them a lot. But I have to say than in sum the Contaxes I've had were better.

Further, a Nikon F6 might be "better" than than an Contax N1 (faster, more bells + whistles, perhaps more buttet-proof), but unless I had a specific application than required some specialized feature of the F6, I would take a N1 every time.

And while it is difficult to pick out the Contax that was "best" -- some might say they RTS III while others might say the N1 (and I might agree). But I think the best thing about the Contaxes was the systems approach to all their cameras. Nearly ALL the Contaxes, whatever the model, all worked basically the same. Operation is virtually seemless between the models. Use a G2 and pick up a 645 and you instantly know how to use it. Put the 645 down and pick up an N1 and you are productive from the start. Go back to an RTS III and you're still in business.

And they all worked like a camera should -- everything was logical, intuitive and ergonomic. Even through to the N Digital, they didn't let go of the knobs and ready access wheels and didn't try to cut corners by going for a more menu-driven system.
(Now if we could just get the Canon 5D sensor into an Contax N Digital body everything would be right with the world).

I guess I would say that Contax was the best camera line (even if it might not have had an individual camera that could be considered "best" overall -- OK, RTS III fans, the RTS III might be).



Nov 22, 2006 at 01:46 PM
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p.1 #5 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I think I must be a lot older than OP
The best SLR I ever had, on which I learned most of my skills was the 1975 Pentax Spotmatic F, screw mount, manual focus, TTL metered, with a razor-sharp 50mm F1.4 standard lens. Added a 35mm lens, tripod and a couple flash-guns and did most of my weddings with very little else. When I upgraded to K mount P31 and some tasty lenses which I still have, it was not a forward step in terms of quality, just convenience, from the bayonet mount. I still love my Pentax's and hope to shortly be using the K10D (santa willing), which I hope will finally take me a step higher in quality.

Edited by keithlester on Nov 29, 2006 at 02:34 PM GMT



Nov 22, 2006 at 02:29 PM
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p.1 #6 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I was very fond of both my Olympus OM-2n and OM-4. Both simple, compact and high quality, yet with some surprisingly advanced features, like multi-spot for the OM-4. The Nikon FM series should also rank highly, as should the Leica R6.2 and R9.


Nov 22, 2006 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #7 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Leica R9 deserves to be on that list.


Nov 22, 2006 at 04:55 PM
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p.1 #8 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Nikon F5.
Built like a tank, "idiot proof" metering and great viewfinder.

Or maybe it's only because I took with it some of my very best images...



Nov 22, 2006 at 05:00 PM
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p.1 #9 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I would say that the Nikon F6 is the best 35mm camera ever made. I've owned Leica R9, M6 TTL, MP and have M7. The MP and M7 may be the best rangefinders ever made but the best SLR for sure is the F6.


Nov 22, 2006 at 05:01 PM
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p.1 #10 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I loved the Pentax K1000 because of its manual everything manual approach and, nastalgia. It is what I learned on. There is just something about the simplicity involved.


Nov 22, 2006 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #11 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Leica MP.


Nov 22, 2006 at 05:40 PM
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p.1 #12 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Contax T3: it gets the job done, and fits in a shirt pocket.


Nov 22, 2006 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #13 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Leica M6, but I've never used an M7 or MP. The R9 is easily the best SLR I've ever used. I'd also put the Mamiya 7 on that list, since it can be used like a 35mm camera. (Even literally, with a 135 film adapter.)



Nov 22, 2006 at 07:01 PM
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p.1 #14 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I used a leicaflex in the late 60's that was awesome
the color was splendid and even thought it was not through the lense metering it was always spot on.
A truly satsifaying camera for a wide variety of assignements.
samie



Nov 22, 2006 at 07:07 PM
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p.1 #15 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Canon EF. Dragged it around with me for 20 years and it not once let me down. Once did some x-country skiing in northern British Columbia in -35 degree weather. My lens focussing stiffened up, but my trustworthy EF kept on ticking.


Nov 22, 2006 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #16 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Difficult choice. Must be F6, N1, OM-4.

Or maybe OM-4, F6, N1

Or even N1, OM-4, F6

Or...

One of those three anyway. They are all so logically designed that learning to use them went more or less by itself, even without the manual, more or less anyway.

Try that with a DSLR.... coming to think of it, my E-1 is like that... almost



Nov 22, 2006 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #17 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


OK, I'm old but my Leica M2 and Nikon F2 bodies suffered more abuse than I care to admit to, and they just kept on going and going and......

Still have the M2.

Marc



Nov 22, 2006 at 08:09 PM
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p.1 #18 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


Leica M6 followed by Canon EOS 1-N


Nov 22, 2006 at 09:21 PM
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p.1 #19 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


I am a little suprised to see a Contax P&S being held up as one of the best 35mm camera's ever in one of the posts. Having owned other T-Series camera's, I would not rule it out. I believe another thread for the best point and shoot ever built is in order.

I will agree with the comments on the Nikon's. Somehow they managed to get the Matrix metering so good that it puts Canon's metering system to shame.



Nov 22, 2006 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #20 · The best 35mm camera there is/was.....


For me, if I could pick only one it would be the Leica R9, because of the quality of the R lenses but the Contax RTS III and the Zeiss lenses would be a close second. For AF it would be my F5. (Still crazy after all these years.) If we were talking about all bodies, not just DSLR's I would probably pick the M6, Mamiya 7II, and th XPan. You could carry all three systems in a backpack and have the best of all worlds

Woody



Nov 23, 2006 at 09:46 AM
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