Tom,
I haven't noticed that. I shoot Adobe RGB JPEG's with contrast set to -2. How do you use it?
If there was a colour cast I wouldn't probably care because I convert all of the files I'm happy with to B&W.
I think that this camera has very accurate colours for being a P&S. I really love this camera. It is the ultimate street photography camera for me. Gotta get a 28mm viewfinder for it.
marbrink wrote:
Tom,
I haven't noticed that. I shoot Adobe RGB JPEG's with contrast set to -2. How do you use it?
If there was a colour cast I wouldn't probably care because I convert all of the files I'm happy with to B&W.
I think that this camera has very accurate colours for being a P&S. I really love this camera. It is the ultimate street photography camera for me. Gotta get a 28mm viewfinder for it.
The Ricoh finder has 21 and 28 mm frame lines, and is closer to rectilinear than these things usually are. Think of it as a bargain because you can use it on the M8 with a 15 or 21. It's offset to the right (looking from the back of the camera) of hot shoe foot, which tends to minimize parallax on the Ricoh but which goes wrong way on the Leica. I'm using it on my Bessa R2A - because of the offset it obscures that shutter speed dial. On the Leica you'll probably be able to see the shutter speed index mark because it's a bit forward of the hot shoe.
If you're on the cusp about buying it you could wait until someone has a chance to try it on the Leica to see how accurate the framing is.
I would like to see Sean's continued input here as well. I have read many of his posts and they mostly answer questions others have asked, so it is not Sean that should be asked to consider what he is posting but all those asking him questions.
Anyway, his site is full of great information and his way of reviewing is appreciated. I also like having an insite to his method of working, very educational.
I want a good doctor to work on my wounds, I want someone who puts in time to write info I depend on. We can't expect anyone older than 18 to have the time to put in without SOMETHING coming back...I can't at least. I don't know everything about photography, never will, don't mind some input from someone who I think knows a few things (or there abouts, YMMV, void where prohibited, taxed, or, against religious law).
I bet I've saved thousands of dollars going down the Canon trail by vicariously living through you guys' expenditures. I don't know anything about your photographic style but I do know that I'm not all that impressed with most of the modern SLR lenses I can rent. I sure liked the Canon 135 2.0L...oh well.
So yeah, I think its great and I think some cross-polination of commercial activities is really useful because 1) it tells us what the person does (I write software, and have an engine that connects inventory to Amazon.com and others, oooooo, I said it!) to know where they are coming from and 2) we could all use a little boost, without turning into the world of either The Merchants of Venus or, if you don't read classic sci-fi, the Moon in Pluto Nash.
A point that is often missed in both photography sites and books is that there is a third type of photographer...a functional photographer, someone who uses a camera in their line of work. Not all photographers can or want to be Advanced Amateurs...but we could all use some valuable information.
The value is that soooo many of us buy into systems, buy stuff, don't like it, sell it, go somewhere else....etc.,...that's expensive! Like Thom Hogan points out, you'd save a lot of money if you went right to the heavy tripod (I'm getting an old Gitzo 400 Giant Studex next week) and a heavy use-capable ball head (got the used BH-55) instead of going to pistol-grip land (oops, I did it again).
Think of all the money I'd save if I go from a Canon QL17 straight to a M8? Or, a nice M6TTL that one of y'all cast off
Guy Mancuso wrote:
Wow been out all day shooting , man what a concept . Felt good and have another in the morning.
okay if i may step in a little here. i understand the many points about Seans site and the par per view issue. let's look at this as more as what i always drive home here is doing your research. Seans reviews are a piece of the puzzle , okay right now it is really the only piece but it is there for those that want to read it, yes I subscribe and also back Sean up in many ways as a friend and collegue but that is besides the point. The point is we all need to do our homework and it is your choice to subscribe or not. When i did the Dmr thread it was my choice to post it here as a working document, i could have certainly made that a paid per view also. I did not and also ate so much crap for it for 18 months even till this day. That is the risk i took just as it is the risk that Sean takes as a working pro giving there opinion on there review of gear. Folks there simply is not too many Pro's that will risk there careers and reputations out there to give a opinion. I have been called every name in the book and worst a liar and a piece of sh.. these are things that have not come up here but on ther sites which Sean is also menbers of and he is getting ripped apart like i did. This is not very much fun for us, so frankly pay per view is actually is a great idea becuase you keep uninvited trolls from seeing it. Anyway i support Sean here and on the rest of the forums as a friend and colleage but trust me some of this is no freaking picnic. i will NEVER run a test against 2 different companies again PERIOD.
i do not mean this as a rant or anything but a understanding from other members here which you all know how much I like you all and would never be here if i did not. i spend a lot of time here because of the respect and friendship shown to me and most of us extend that to others as well. So that is all i want to say about this but I like having Sean here, it's good for me too....Show more →
I got an idea that should cheer you up...Why not time the Mexican Safari for when all those who are ordering the M8 will have one and make it "The M8 Mexican Safari" ... Looks like you'd have a full house on this one.
I think Sean provides an invaluable service. One that takes untold hours to prepare. He researches his articles and reviews completely, then presents his reviews in an unbiased, thorough manner. I can read Seans reviews without any worry about who is the "Wizard of Oz" behind the curtain pulling the strings. You don't get that assurance from any of the so called "free" web review sites, as you just don't know where the money comes from for the reviewer to pay his mortgage and put food on the table. Sean is not only very professional in his photography, he is a passionate writer about it. I support completely what Sean is doing, and will continue to do so. We need more people around like Sean, and a whole lot less of the detractors. Those that choose to participate at the level most of us aspire to in our photography would do well to seek Seans council before they make high dollar purchases, and would likely also become supporters rather than detractors after the fact. This gear isn't cheap, and mistakes are costly. Anybody that can save me serious money more than deserves a small fee for the privlidge of hearing his advice. Writers and photographers are artists, and artists deserve to get paid for their work too.
Guy, I bought the M to R adapter new from SH Photo for the DMR, not a big investment I think around 140 Euros. I have two M6 bodies a 28 2.8, 35 1.4, 50 1.4, 75 1.4 and 135 2.8, non ASPH as I bought them in the mid 90's before this option. The problem with this adapter is that it does not infinity focus so a real specialty lens for experimenting with close range subjects. I think It worked best for me with the 75 1.4. I will try and shoot a sample for you when I get a chance. I look forward to getting the M8 to use with these lenses as a journalism set. On the M6 I used the 35 1.4 Summilux most. It's a shame that there is not a fast equivalent for the M8. The 28 2.8 will not have the exact same low light capability as the 35 1.4 did.
I chime in with the others, Sean. Keep your valuable posts coming. Based on your reviews, I went overboard and bought a ton of M8 lenses ,,,ZMs 21mm, 28mm, 35mm and 50mm f1.5), along with Leica 24mm. Also have CV 15mm and 35mm f2.5, Unlike Guy, I owned and used in my film days an M2 (my first Leica bought in 1960), an M3, M4 and M4-2. I recognize that RFs will never replace my DSLRs, but they have a special way of "seeing" which encourages one to do "street shooting" etc.
Pleas keep up the good work.
Dave
I think the Tamron lens caps are the best I've used. I replace all my Canon caps with them; also I prefer to have others think that I have a generic brand (less valuable) lens.
sreidvt wrote:
Just a note to think about as people plan lenses. There are a group of very compact CV lenses that don't do very well on the R-D1 because of vignetting (15/4.5, 21/4, 28/3.5, etc.) I've just started casually testing this group of little pancake lenses on the M8 and they perform much better - vignetting is significantly less.
Can't wait to see the results from all of the above, plus I'd love to see how the CV 12 works... and the 35 PII. Or whatever else you can lay your grubby paws on. Keep up the good work!
