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p.3 #1 · 5D design flaw/bug link


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Let me ask a question, I had my 5D a day so have not even tried the C function but when you use it does it save the setup that you plugged in to your CF card or is it just some internal memory that it retains it. Is it not like saving a personal function or custom function. I will get mine back monday and will look at this just trying to see were the data you set goes.

The series 1 camera's you can save data like this to the card , my DMR has 3 functions user
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It isn't like my 1 series - with the 5D you get the camera set like you want it and then go into the menu and 'Register Camera Settings', then you just select these settings by going to C mode.

IMHO it is a CLEAR mistake to have these settings revert just because the camera goes into standby - yes if you switch off but not standby. As someone else said, the camera starts so quickly you often don't know you've been off.

Hope it will be fixed via firmware

David



Oct 16, 2005 at 08:37 AM
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p.3 #2 · 5D design flaw/bug link


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Thanks David sounds like all internal functions of the camera itself. i will look at it when I get it. Maybe there is a workaround or something


The workaround is to disable the auto shut-off, but I think that is a kludge. I assume Canon wouldn't have intended it - I can't understand why they would have - I can't think of a single occasion one would want the settings to change without knowing about it!

David



Oct 16, 2005 at 09:22 AM
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p.3 #3 · 5D design flaw/bug link


Guy Mancuso wrote:
Well my first thought was the auto shut-off which i disable that anyway . For tethered you almost have too but not everyone works that way, so there very well be a issue. But like anything else what else is new.

I think we need to realize , engineers design these things not folks that shoot all the time. Sometimes stuff looks good on paper but sucks in the field , nature of the beast. Anyway let's mark this down somewhere and get word to Canon and maybe a firmware update will be needed, Every DSLR that has hit
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I agree absolutely.

Canon usually does a great job of giving us the stuff we need (often the stuff we didn't even know we needed), that's why I've used Canons for nearly 30 years, this is a silly error on an otherwise astonishingly good camera.

If they wouldn't persisit with the silly mirror lock up procedure I probably would never have noticed it

David



Oct 16, 2005 at 10:28 AM
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p.3 #4 · 5D design flaw/bug link


The only custom functions I ever use are the ones that disable shooting without a card (because one day I will) and mirror lock up (which I really need for my industrial still-life).

I still have to delve into many menus just go do these two

Still, better than owning a Nikon

David



Oct 16, 2005 at 12:02 PM
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p.3 #5 · 5D design flaw/bug link


This is an interesting dilemma for Canon; the Design will be wrong one way or the other depending upon how people use their cameras. I notice that, for the most part, people who are annoyed use the expression 'sleep mode' or 'time out', while people who think the system is reasonable call it 'auto off'. My 10D doesn't go into any lower level sleep mode, it shuts off. The only time I use the power switch is when I change cards and lenses. Of course, I know it's been off because it takes so *&#*%$ long to turn back on. Does the 5D manual refer to 'auto off' or sleep? (Just wondering - my 5D isn't due to arrive here until tomorrow!!!) Anyway, seems to me to be reasonable that, if the camera has been 'off' - no matter for how long - that C would give you the presets you assigned to it...


Oct 16, 2005 at 12:16 PM
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It seems to me (as an average user) that this is clearly an error.

I can't imagine any circumstances in which having the camera revert to the stored functions after an unspecified or unsheduled time (and without notice)would be an advantage.

If anyone can come up with a scenario where this would be the preferred method of operation I would really like to hear it - perhaps I'm using the camera wrongly!

David




Oct 16, 2005 at 12:26 PM
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p.3 #7 · 5D design flaw/bug link


What's the big deal? Why have the camera go into sleep mode at all?

Unless you're taking a picture or have your autoexposure/autofocus/image stabilization active, the camera is drawing very little power. What, a little LCD screen? I've left my EOS 3 on overnight and the batteries are fine.

A P&S with a live review LCD is one thing, but this is an SLR. Turn it on, leave it on, shut it off when you're done shooting.



Oct 16, 2005 at 11:43 PM
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p.3 #8 · 5D design flaw/bug link


Dave C wrote:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/5d-gotcha.shtml


This is NOT a design flaw or bug!!!!

It's a "feature"! ............ so get over it and move on.

JohnG



Oct 16, 2005 at 11:58 PM
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p.3 #9 · 5D design flaw/bug link


Auto Power Off is an automatic function that happens without the photographer being aware of it. Auto Power On is so quick that you are often unaware that the camera has been off. If this happens in C mode the registered settings will be restored without the photographer having any reason to think that something might have changed. A camera should never change a setting by itself without the photograper being aware of it.

This is either bad design or a bug. If we use C mode we have to disable Auto Power Off - both are very useful features.

The obvious answer is for the 5D to handle manual Power On differently from Auto Power On. Loading the registered settings should only happen when the phototgrapher selects C mode or manually switches the camera on.



Oct 17, 2005 at 02:41 AM
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