ok I just went through all 28 pages and it took me 45mins to read everyone's comments!
Here is my 2-cents.
It doesn't make sense to me that they would make this 5D because I think it
would kill the 1Ds Mark II
I only shoot weddings and do a little portrait and fashion work. I want a FF for portrait and fashion with something over 10mp. FF and anything over 10mp has been my dream but was only in the flagship 1Ds, but if they make this camera then I won't have to save for the 1Ds anymore and I can just buy this.
I know I'll get flamed but thats what I think... there should be something that fills the 1d and 20d gap but I think this is a bit too good to fill the gap.
Kenergy_007 wrote:
It doesn't make sense to me that they would make this 5D because I think it
would kill the 1Ds Mark II
I don't really think the 1Ds MkII has anything to worry about or the 1D MkII for that matter. These are pro bodies the 10, 20, 5D are pro-sumer bodies, the difference is lightyears between them.
I think this 5D (if it is for real) would be a hobby landscape shooters dream. I moved from a 10D to the 1D MkII for landscape shooting 1.For smaller crop factor and 2. Higher MP. I wanted the pro body but could not afford the full frame 1Ds MkII, the 1D MkII was my comprimise. If I had heard about the possibility of this 5D sooner I probably would have waited to see if it was really true.
Also something like the 5D (assuming it's real and the specs are accurate) should probably be seen in the context of the next generation of Canon dSLR's, where no doubt the 'standard' megapixel bar will be raised substantially higher all round.
There's always that leap frogging, when newer lower end products are released and compared against older higher end gear. Cool if you're buying the newer, semi weird if you own the older.
I'll be interested to see what effects any cost cutting in the 5D has on the cameras performance in the real world. I don't know how forgiving full frame will be if anything else in the camera that is lacking.
It'll be a shame if Canon drops 1.3 - ideal imo, just needs a few more MP.
magicpixel wrote:
It'll be a shame if Canon drops 1.3 - ideal imo, just needs a few more MP.
More megapixels is nice, but a smaller pixel pitch is not. I live well with my own 1D II and 20D, but if I want substantially more pixel resolution I realistically understand that a larger sensor is required in order to maintain dynamic range and a good S/N ratio.
a larger sensor is required in order to maintain dynamic range and a good S/N ratio.
I think that has been proven more or less to be not necessarily true and will continue to be so. As has been stated elsewhere regarding this very issue - if all things were equal your statement would be true - however sensor technology is still very much on the improve, more can and will be done with less and often better
I remember reading somewhere that improvements in sensor hardware (microlenses etc) have pretty much reached their limit. They might be able to claw an extra 10 or 20% out of them but quantum limits are starting to be an issue.
Rich_D wrote:
I don't really think the 1Ds MkII has anything to worry about or the 1D MkII for that matter. These are pro bodies the 10, 20, 5D are pro-sumer bodies, the difference is lightyears between them.
Rich_D wrote:
If I had heard about the possibility of this 5D sooner I probably would have waited to see if it was really true.
Richard
This proves my point why buy a 1Ds when this thing is more then enough, if studio pros want to make more profit then the 5D will be good enough thus lowering the 1Ds market.
Fast Shadow wrote:
If this is for real then I'm interested in it. I would like a full frame digital with higher res to complement my 1D2, but the noise level of the 1Ds turns me off and the 1Ds2 is out of my price range. This 5D would be an ideal fit for me as I'd have my 1D2 for track and action photography and the 5D for glamour and style shots. Plus each camera would be a competent backup for the other.
What I'm more curious about is what this "1DMkII N" is....
I'm with you Fast Shadow. I have a 1D2 and a 20D, but what I don't like is the fact that the 20D has a completely different layout from the 1D2 making it less user friendly for me when I pick it up because I know my 1D2 very well. Back in my film days I had an EOS 3 and I thought that fit in very nicely with the "pro" line because it used the same layout. If the pictures are correct then it appears the rumored 5D has the same layout as the 20D/10D series which makes sense, but also makes it less desireable for me.
Oh well, in just four days we'll all know if this was true and hopefully find some wonderful surprises in Canon's August 22nd announcements, like maybe some new prime glass!
It's fun to speculate but let's remember that's all we're doing...
Tim Adams wrote: The 1DsmkII is 16.7MP, I hardly think a full frame 1DmkII N at 12.8MP would wipe out the 1DsmkII. The cameras are aimed at entirely different markets.
Yes currently, but a FF 1D2 N with 13MP would be as good as a 1Ds2, twice as fast and probably $2-3K cheaper. I'm guessing 75% of 1Ds2 buyers would jump ships in a heartbeat. Those extra 4MP will not buy you much at all.
I like to belive in fairytales and if it's true I'd get one, but all I can say is dream on.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
There would be no way this will happen. The 1Ds2 would be wiped out.
Of course I'd love to see a 12.5MP 1.3x crop 1D2 N, but I don't think that will happen either.
Why would the Ds II be "wiped out"? That camera is about resolution and the ability to make big prints or hand off large files, which it would still excell at.
A D IIN would give a little more res. to the speed camera. Any one who wanted big files/output would still go for the Ds II. I would agree that Canon would probably have to lower the price of the Ds II, but they may be about to do that anyway. There are only so many who can lay out $8K, and at some point it probably makes sense to drop the price and sell more cameras.
