I´ve have recently beeing stared at for shooting with KM by Nikon and Canon users...
Why is that?
Give me a reason why 20D is better that Maxxum 7d with the new firmware?
Just interested to know why everyone does that (not everyone but most of them).
I think another valid question is WHY the 7D. Nothing wrong with it but it seems that Canon and Nikon own a majority of the DSLR market and have a much wider array of products. More bodies, lenses, faster upgrades, much easier to find used gear,
Well, unfortunately I own Canon shares and no Konica-Minolta ones, so my choice was obvious *g*.
No kiddin: I like the idea of the "IS" inbuilt in the camera (and therfore not
have to pay for it with each new lens). However moving the CCD/CMOS
does sound more ... hmm ... risky than moving a focus lens within the
lens (IHMO that is).
You will find happy campers in either bucket, be there a Canon, Nikon,
KM or whatsoever tag on it.
Not really, The lens range seems to be ok, And there are also the 3rd party options Its just the timing of its release.
Why would you want to buy a 6mp camera when for about the same price you could pick up the 8mp 20D?
Its also about the brand, Canon and Nikon are extablished players on the d\slr market, While Konica Minolta is the new player, Most of the early sales will be to The Minolta die hards who have been waiting for this camera, I myself used to be a Minolta shooter but just coulden't wait around so I bought into the Canon EF System, Will I swich back..... Well no I like the Canon system and have invested alot into it, Its a shame though becuse I think that there are some good ideas from Konica Minolta.
Im shure there will be more ppl buying into the Konica Minolta system over the next couple of years, Im shure there will be a Dynax\Maxximum 3D somewhere down the line aimed at the consumer market which will bring more ppl to there system.
I don't agree with the range issue. Just looking at your short list of lenses, I can say that the Konica-Minolta doesn't have anything like the 70-200 f/4L. With the KM, your choices are going with a lower-quality 70-300 APO from Sigma or KM 70-210, or a 70-200/2.8 from KM or Sigma.
Could it be that D7 is one beautiful camera and people don't see them everyday, and they can't help but staring at it? Nothing wrong with D7. Just that Minolta now is not a top player in the SLR field specially DSLRs. People like to go with the dominating force. KM to Canon and Nikon is like Mac to PC. Mac is better in many ways(not all of them). But there are fewer software choices for Mac. Just like there are fewer lens choices for KM.
I was a Minolta user once from 7000i to 7xi to 700si. But as soon as I have my EOS 50. It seems that I've been picking up the 50 more than the 700si everytime I have a shoot. Now my Minolta system is for sale. But the 7D is a great camera. 8 MP is not that much difference to 6 MP. And you have the AS-Anti-Shake. That means you can use any minolta dynax/Maxxum lenses at low shutter speed. For Canon EOS and Nikon, an IS or VR lens is needed. Don't listen to what other people. As long as you are happy with your gear. Go on and keep on shooting. You have an awesome gear though.
Im just saying that there isen't any real reason why more ppl are buying Canons over the Dynax\Maxximum 7D it just hapened to be released at the wrong time, thats why more ppl chose (or are choosing) the 20D over the 7D ATM.
Im shure more ppl will start to buy them soon enough.
I had a look at one, Its not bad, A Bit chunky and the fact that all the menus are put into the back LCD is a bit of a pain (Expecally when shooting at night, as your night vision will be affected everytime you go to check you settings, Unlike canon which has the back lit LCD's) The IS works ok, I guess in the long run it would be cheaper to have IS in the body then to spend mega $$$ to buy decent IS lenses, It would also reduce weight as IS lenses are quite big.
I still prefer the canon system and will stick with it, My days of using KM are long gone. (haven't used KM for 5 years now).
Bottom line is if your happy with your camera then thats all that matters!
I looked at the 7D but found I was dissapointed in a few key areas. I found the build quality bad in that I had to really try hard to get the battery out of the body. The ergonomics, while great on a film body are a poor and confusing set of characteristics when mixed with digital the way KM has done it. I had always been a big supported of discrete switches and KM is the most extreme that way but for example: The way you change exposure compensation is great on the KM. There is a dial that you twist one way for 1/3 stop and the other for 1/2 stops. Great ... except that when certain settings are used the overide the dial and you are left with a mess where you can't trust the glance at the dial ... but have to remember. That isn't the way I want to work. I think the minolta lenses are very good with shapnes and suchbut once you get used to the canon or nikon way it is difficult to remember to either push the MF overide button or get your hand off the focus ring. If you don't the darn thing will twist in your hand ... sometimes it's a big surprise. I like the idea of sensor focus on the one hand but when I think of how a miniscule missalignment can throw the focus out and using the body year upon year in tough conditions ... I worry a bit that the design is not durable for the long haul. The first few reviews that I was aware of mentioned a softness and I couldn't help wonder if it may not be due to that. I would be happy if that proves to be unfounded but it's an expensive vote of confidence when you get into a system .... that I don't yet have in KM. Lastly what keeps me luke warm on the system is that I know that there is an upgrade to a larger sensor available to me in the canon line. That is a doubtfull thing in KM. I don't care about the larger sensors per say .... but the magnificent viewfinders that they come with. Nothing, NOTHING is more imortant to me than the quality of the scene through the viewfinder. In canon I know I can move up ( when I win the lottery ) Are you sure of that with your 7? What if you start to do sports or bird photography in a serious way? Where is the step up to better focus and frame rates? For me then it's not that anything is seriously wrong with the choice of KM but it's not the best set of trade off that I wish to make. In other words " Nothing wrong but nothing compelling neither".
The body IS doesn't work as well as in-the-lens IS. For example, when you are shooting, what shakes more, the camera right in your hands... or the lens 15 inches out? Of course, the lens does. Most people can handhold shots down to 1 second with a light lens. With a telephoto or heavy lens, no way!
So... the camera is stabilizing the steadiest part and not the the part that really shakes, meaning that it's not really doing all that much stabilizing since it can't tell what's going on all the way out at the end of the lens.
I know if I saw a Maxxum I would stare. It's such a cool camera and I would love to try one out. The controls are what I like. Very intuitive without all the menus/screens/buttons to push.
mudlake wrote:
I know if I saw a Maxxum I would stare. It's such a cool camera and I would love to try one out.
Thats true, It is different to see someone using something other than Canon\Nikon all the time.
Like a post a few days ago, someone was at a car show and he seid that there where heaps of 20Ds everywere! I guess if I saw someone using one I would be like.....
My friend just got the 7D and I got to handle it briefly. IMO it fits nicely into my hand and the controls are confusing at first but I can see how one can really get use to it. The 2.5" LCD screen is HUGE but it was in no way as sharp as the 20D's. I think that was my only dissapointment in my first look. He had a 28-75mm f2.8 on it and the whole package was still comparable to the same setup on a 20D.
If I had to do it all over again would I get a 7D? I'd just get both
I think the next generation Maxxum will be a winner. Minolta already has the basics covered in nice glass for me, so that's not an issue. If the next generation REALLY steps up to the plate with a big bright viewfinder and at least 8 megapixels, I will probably be all over it.
Just from pixel peeping, first looks, and feature comparisons, I think the 20D is a better camera by the numbers. I'm starting to think the 7D is a better overall package for the average joe and jane who go on vacations, shoot their kids' soccer games, etc. The selection of lenses is still large if you include Sigma glass.
The body IS doesn't work as well as in-the-lens IS. For example, when you are shooting, what shakes more, the camera right in your hands... or the lens 15 inches out? Of course, the lens does. Most people can handhold shots down to 1 second with a light lens. With a telephoto or heavy lens, no way!
It doesn't matter which part is shaking. The stabilizing system checks the image/optical movement and not the physical movement for that matter. The main question is if the movement latitude of the sensor for correcting shakes can match the in-lens system. That's still needs to be tested.
