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p.1 #1 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


I was browsing for a 500mm PF because I gave up my 200-500 and the 300/PF after my Africa Safari..
Saw one get sold for 1600 a year ago, barely used..

Found an offer for a D500 with 500PF and TC bundled for 2500€.. all other 500PF selling for 2500+ on their own
Checked Nikon.com website, 2000 USD for brand new 500/PF.. weee! (If you want a 500/5.6PF and are in the US, today is the day!!!)

Meanwhile, Nikon Switzerland be like: haha, 3500, sucker!


Checking the Swiss auction sites again and there's this guy, a collector, selling SOME of his Nikon collection.. (600/4, 500/4, 300/2.8, 200/2 , and an 800/5.6 film era cannon) all great prices, all looking barely used, in the nice cases and all.. no E lenses, but the last versions before that generation..

He wanted 2k EUR as a starting bid on the 500mm f/4G ED VR... claiming "mint condition, perfect funciton".. (being in Switzerland, and not Japan, that actually means something... cough cough)

But nobody placed a bid.. I checked ebay and realised that 2k is actually a good price...
(There's this "MINT+++++++++++++++++1111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Version on Ebay Japan that has a "strange sound when focus motor works" for roughly 2'200€ after shipping and taxes and customs, but everything else is more.. and most that got sold and were in great condition and working properly were like 2300 USD before shipping, taxes, customs, etc. which would amount to another 300 USD in that price range))


so, I was being funny and offered 1'800€ .. no reaction..
the next day, it was offered at 1'900€ starting bid for one day..

I was like "nah, buddy, nobody will buy this.. the market is simply non-existend here.." There's a total of TWO of those lenses up for sale.. and the other doesn't even have the box anymore.. we got three 500mm PF for sale.. that's all there is..


and before I went to bed last night, I got a "Congrats, you bought this article!" message..






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I mean, I'm happy, I think?!

Pros?

- Works on my F5 without issues (will I ever use this with film?)
- Works better with 1.4x and 2x TC when on my D850
- Fewer issues with loss of contrast against bright light
- Better bokeh in specular highlights (e.g. reflecting water)
- Very few people will joke about how "theirs is bigger"..
- The Zf can be attached to it and I won't even notice it's there.. like a pancake lens on my F5, this will be a pancake camera on my lens..
- I think it does easily fit into my Guragear 32L backpack for the next Safari
- It's a full stop faster than the 500PF, which makes for a better "Dusk" or "Dawn" lens
- It's a full stop faster, so subject separation is even better


Cons?
- I need to workout again.. But I need that anyways, since my Toddler will inevitably gain weight before he decides that getting carried around by dad is lame..
- It's more than twice as heavy as a 500PF
- If I ever used a 500mm on my F5, I probably wouldn't have bothered with stopping down anyways, and the E lenses are just wide open all the time, iirc?!
- If it breaks down, I don't get the great 3-year Nikon Warranty in my country.. And getting it repaired would probably cost as much as just selling it as "broken" and buying a "new" used one instead..
- I might need to look for another Sunwayfoto GH-02 Gimbal.. (I had one for my Safari gear and loved it with my Monopod and the 200-500... should be great with the 500/4, but the prices just went up since I got mine in 2021...)



Oh, and the biggest issue, probably..
I'm not a Birder...



Anyways, will keep y'all updated when I get this cannon...


Edit: fixed the "FL" that snuck in there. Of course, this is the F/4G ED VR not FL...

Edited on Aug 27, 2026 at 09:57 AM · View previous versions



Aug 26, 2026 at 05:39 AM
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p.1 #2 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Looks like a fun lens! And a nice price!

Love to hear how it works out for you.



Aug 26, 2026 at 07:59 AM
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p.1 #3 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


mbphoto_2.8 wrote:
- I might need to look for another Sunwayfoto GH-02 Gimbal.. (I had one for my Safari gear and loved it with my Monopod and the 200-500... should be great with the 500/4, but the prices just went up since I got mine in 2021...)


If you need an alternative, I can recommend the NEEWER GM102 gimbal. It's a little less expensive than the Sunwayfoto (at least in the US) and works very well. I currently use it with the Sony 400-800mm, which is just a little smaller/lighter than your new 500mm; handles it effortlessly.

https://neewer.com/products/neewer-gm102-tripod-gimbal-head-66607096

Here it is with my former Nikon setup -







Aug 26, 2026 at 08:11 AM
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p.1 #4 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


looks gorgeous, and the price is promising!


Aug 26, 2026 at 09:04 AM
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p.1 #5 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


i don't think that's the FL (latest) version (i think that's a generation before because it's simlar to what i have).. but that's a good price. i bought mine here B&S for a similar price.


Aug 26, 2026 at 12:00 PM
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p.1 #6 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!




dalegaspi wrote:
i don't think that's the FL (latest) version (i think that's a generation before because it's simlar to what i have).. but that's a good price. i bought mine here B&S for a similar price.


you're right, that FL snuck in there.
I did mean the G version, not the E version.

(If I had gotten the F/4E I would've been much more excited, since that one's nearly 2 pounds lighter than the G)



anyways, I just got a Sunwayfoto GH-04 off ebay for 200 bucks (less than the GH-02, but still advertised as new, from a reputable seller..)

will see how that turns out..

and I sure as hell won't be able to hide these from my partner..

but our deal is "whenever you buy something, something must go"...
now, what should I try to get rid off? 🤫



Aug 27, 2026 at 12:37 AM
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p.1 #7 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Got the lens, looks gorgeous!

Is heavy AF!!!

There's a Nikon NC filter in the slot? is that just to protect the rear element against dust or stuff coming in?

previous owner also swapped out the tripod foot for a Wimberley one with arca cutouts, great.

the lens coat is... something to get used to. My OCD screams at the one covering the switches, because it's not aligned nicely and keeps shifting... aaargh!

Not having a front protector filter is giving me the jeepers.. but I'll survive.
If it breaks, it breaks.. insurance will cover it with a 200$ fee on my part..



the autofocus is "loud" and "whirry".. I've read up on this a bit.. not necessarily a sign of a faulty motor, just been sitting a while and should normalise with use again?
at first, I thought the lens was fckd... until I realised that shooting through a dirty window will not work with any lens 🤣


I'll get to more testing this weekend, I hope. Maybe I'm getting my gimbal until then, because handholding this beast is not gonna happen much just yet 👀



Sep 01, 2026 at 07:00 AM
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p.1 #8 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Congrats.

I bought a used 200/2 April 2022 that had a bit of squeek but it's gone away and I don't use it as much as I should but I use it enough to have smoothed out that issue.



Sep 01, 2026 at 08:17 AM
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p.1 #9 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Yep it’s big and it’s heavy, but it’s also an incredible lens. Hard to top the image quality of a good 500mm f4.


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p.1 #10 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Enjoy the new lens. It's definitely going to build your arm strength a lot more than the 500/5.6. I picked up a 500/4G a few years ago for the 2024 total solar eclipse that passed over the USA. It was a great lens, I took some really good photos of the eclipse, birds, etc. with it. I got it for such a steal (about 40% the going rate at the time) that I ended up flipping it some months after the eclipse (I didn't move quickly, left about 30% of the value on the table, oh well) and saving a bit more money for the 500/4E FL. The E FL is of course lighter and balances more easily for short periods of handholding and is slightly improved optically over the G; the G lens was no slouch though to be sure and I loved the images i got out of it.

My main motivation was to make a lens practically instead of barely handholdable and to ensure I didn't need to buy quite so much tripod/gimbal to support the lens+camera combo.

You're going to enjoy the lens. Biggest thing with the AF-S motors on these super telephotos is use them use them use them. Don't let them sit for months.



Sep 05, 2026 at 08:14 AM
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it's ginormous! (85/1.8G for size)

and the gimbal is genuine.. insane for under 200 dollars..












material quality is ridiculous on this.

tried it on my monopod, but it's not exactly easy to keep the lens steady without leaning it against something.










Sep 10, 2026 at 01:28 PM
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p.1 #12 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!








wide open Test shot of an outdoor sports court light. (no crop)
lots of blurry shots due to user error. This clearly shows that I don't need to AF adjust for the lens.

the Vignetting is insane (I loaded the lens profile in Lightroom), but the sharpness is mind-boggling.




Sep 20, 2026 at 10:07 AM
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p.1 #13 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


I’m looking for a 500 PF mainly for birds, and the lighter weight is a big part of the appeal. Now that you’ve had some time with the f/4, do you still think you’d want the PF for days when you don’t want to carry a tripod or monopod?


Sep 20, 2026 at 07:48 PM
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p.1 #14 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


I just pulled the trigger on a used 300mm f2.8 VR II (and a TC20E III, just in case). I don't really shoot wildlife, so this will be mostly used for dogs and portraits. But life is short so why not dabble and have some fun

At 2.9kg and "only" 267mm length it's not quite as big of a beast as the 500mm f4 VR, so I should hopefully still be able to handhold it.. and I also wanted to work on my arms for a while now..

Prices for these old supertele lenses are becoming quite interesting and optical performance should still be top notch. Main advantage of the newer ones is much lower weight and that's obviously a big one (the build-in TCs are also really nice), so seems many are now migrating to the native mirrorless versions and there's actually quite a bit of supply on the used market.

Really curious how well it will perform on the FTZ II + Zf in terms of AF speed. Might also test it on the D700.



Oct 01, 2026 at 09:51 AM
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p.1 #15 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


The PF would still be great, I feel like..
there's one for sale for as little as 1300€ right now (including an FTZ II), but it has no box, no receipts, and I have no money.. lol
There's tons of 500PF being sold second-hand by camera stores across the country, often for as little as 1400€
I didn't know that.. was impatient.. only looked at the fantasy asking prices on my local auction site.. (2500+ on average)

but at 1400 vs the 2000 I paid for the F4, I honestly might have gotten the PF from the start..

brian_lzm wrote:
I’m looking for a 500 PF mainly for birds, and the lighter weight is a big part of the appeal. Now that you’ve had some time with the f/4, do you still think you’d want the PF for days when you don’t want to carry a tripod or monopod?


the old super tele lenses are optically basically perfect.. their only drawback is the size, weight, and vignetting.. (newer designs won't have any less vignetting, unless they are significantly larger)
the fluorite glass shaves off a ton of weight at the front, but 16 grand for a 600mm TC.. sorry, but I wouldn't even get that lens if wildlife photography was my main income source.

my only fear with the 500/4 VR really is that the AF motor will die on me..
I checked the serial number and found out that it was one of the earliest models, 2007 or 2008.
While it wasn't used much, unfortunately that doesn't mean that the motor will last any longer than in a well-used lens.. corrosion and such..

that said, If I had the cash right now I'd get the 500PF and compare the two in the field (by the river and at the forest's edge.. beautiful fall season as it is)



Oct 02, 2026 at 05:59 AM
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p.1 #16 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


Thanks for sharing. It's really a nightmare for my girlfriend and me to carry a huge lens for hours on a birding hike, even though we got Cotton harness. So I pre-ordered the new Sony 600 GM (long wait) and just bought a 500 PF today at a reasonable price. Can't wait to test their sharpness and go birding!


Oct 03, 2026 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #17 · Wanted a 500mm f/5.6E PF and "accidentally" bought a 500mm f/4G ED VR... What now?!


hey, at 1/3 the weight, you will definitely appreciate the PF on hours-long hikes 😬


Oct 04, 2026 at 05:46 AM







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