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Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


Hi all, I love the look of these lenses when they aren't flaring. Unfortunately it looks like they flare easily.

Maybe I could live with this. For those with the lens, how bad is it really? Do you always shoot with a hood?

Is there any lens in LTM or M mount that has the similar vintage rendering and especially color, f2 or faster, but with less flaring?

Right now I have the 35mm Voigtlander Nokton Classic 1.4 II MC. It does reasonably well against flaring for what it is, but it has saturated colors and gets modern looking when stopped down. I'm looking for another lens with a bit more consistent vintage look.

Thoughts? Would appreciate to hear from those who have had the Leica or LLL version of the 8 element 35mm f2.



May 08, 2026 at 03:33 PM
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p.1 #2 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


I own the Summaron 35/2.8 that released 1958, same year as the Summicron 35 v1—barrels look identical. The Summaron flares like a sonofabitch, and that's when the sun is within the frame. The flaring look can be managed, especially with the instant feedback of digital. However, you might just prefer a modern 35mm with multicoating and where the designers paid better attention to stray light.


May 08, 2026 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


rico wrote:
I own the Summaron 35/2.8 that released 1958, same year as the Summicron 35 v1—barrels look identical. The Summaron flares like a sonofabitch, and that's when the sun is within the frame


haha, good to know it really is an issue. Do you find it happens often? Or can you work around it?

I’m shooting film, so I don’t have the feedback of digital sadly. Since you mention the sun in the frame is the problem, I guess I could just look for the sun and ensure it stays out of the frame.




May 09, 2026 at 09:27 AM
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p.1 #4 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


Keep the sun far out of frame, and use a hood.


May 09, 2026 at 08:56 PM
 


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p.1 #5 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


The Canon 35/2 LTM has better flare resistance than its faster siblings (the 35/1.8 and 35/1.5), at least to veiling flare, and plenty of vintage character. I have the 35/1.8 and it's one of my favourite lenses, but it is very susceptible to veiling flare, which I don't like, and space-alien-looking ghost flares, which I do like. I just avoid putting the sun in or near the edge of the frame, which is what leads to veiling flare. The ghosts mainly occur when the sun is actually in the frame.




May 10, 2026 at 04:39 AM
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p.1 #6 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


bjhurley wrote:
The Canon 35/2 LTM has better flare resistance than its faster siblings (the 35/1.8 and 35/1.5), at least to veiling flare, and plenty of vintage character. I have the 35/1.8 and it's one of my favourite lenses, but it is very susceptible to veiling flare, which I don't like, and space-alien-looking ghost flares, which I do like. I just avoid putting the sun in or near the edge of the frame, which is what leads to veiling flare. The ghosts mainly occur when the sun is actually in the frame.



Good to know! I actually just received a Canon 50mm 1.4 LTM and have started taking some shots with it. I did get a hood for it, so I'll be sure to use it when I shoot outside on sunny days. Haven't finished a roll yet, but I'm excited to see what the vintage Canon looks like.



May 10, 2026 at 05:21 PM
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pontoon wrote:
Good to know! I actually just received a Canon 50mm 1.4 LTM and have started taking some shots with it. I did get a hood for it, so I'll be sure to use it when I shoot outside on sunny days. Haven't finished a roll yet, but I'm excited to see what the vintage Canon looks like.


All the Canon LTM lenses have their own looks; the 50/1.4 looks more modern to me than any of the 35mm lenses. It flares a lot wide open (beautiful ring flares and interesting ghosts) but it tames down quite a bit stopped down (even with the hood you can still get some flares). I'm a fan of all flares except veiling flare so I usually see it as a feature, not a bug, but I do try to avoid veiling flare.

Here's an example of the flare from the Canon 50/1.4 on a film rangefinder (Canon P):

A certain flare by Brad Hurley, on Flickr




May 10, 2026 at 06:43 PM
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p.1 #8 · Summicron 35mm v1 rigid / LLL 8 element & Alternatives


bjhurley wrote:
All the Canon LTM lenses have their own looks; the 50/1.4 looks more modern to me than any of the 35mm lenses. It flares a lot wide open (beautiful ring flares and interesting ghosts) but it tames down quite a bit stopped down (even with the hood you can still get some flares). I'm a fan of all flares except veiling flare so I usually see it as a feature, not a bug, but I do try to avoid veiling flare.

Here's an example of the flare from the Canon 50/1.4 on a film rangefinder (Canon P):

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53764765270_49cd0fb069_c.jpgA certain flare by Brad, on Flickr

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Lovely picture! Can't wait to get this roll developed now



May 10, 2026 at 06:53 PM







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