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p.3 #1 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


rob_ww,

If you have the opportunity, maybe visit a camera store to get your hands on one of the lenses you are considering. That's how I ended up with a Laowa 35mm Argus f0.95. It's just fun to use and makes images that I like. I had a larger budget to work with, but it just spoke to me. Sometimes I think all any of us are looking for is a lens that speaks to us.



Apr 04, 2026 at 09:33 AM
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p.3 #2 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


Mystik wrote:
I mean if you're questioning how a compact $200 lens compares against the center part of a larger $2,000 lens, then I think we know what the answer will be.

You might, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to digital photography, and in almost every forum, people keep assuring me that the dynamic range decreases in crop mode. To be honest, that doesn't quite make sense to me when viewing on a screen (which has fewer megapixels than the image anyway), but that's not the point here. In any case, I'd personally be interested to know if I'd perceive any differences in the overall view. I don't think so, but thinking isn't knowing, and if the GM actually looks better, knowing that would immediately put its weight into perspective, since it essentially has a 1.8/75 lens built in 😃. This isn't keeping me up at night, but if anyone happens to have the GM and also one of the lightweight 1.8 or 2.0/75 lenses, I'd appreciate a 1:1 comparison image. But as I said, it's not that important in the end.

Mystik wrote:
The fact that the two lenses are even in the same conversation says a lot though.

But what does that mean? In my case, it simply means I'm interested in whether the 1.2/50 GM can actually replace a 1.8 or 2.0/75 in crop mode. Price is irrelevant to me at this point. It's not about choosing between lenses or which one offers the better value for money.

Mystik wrote:
I think the main question to ask is whether the technical differences matter enough to rationalize both the cost and the size/weight

No, that's precisely not what I'm talking about. Because 75mm isn't an alternative to 50mm. But even if you meant that statement to refer to comparable focal lengths. I already own the GM, and three years ago, when I didn't return it but kept it, I already answered this question for myself, and I would answer it the same way again today, by the way. Yes, it's worth the cost and the size/weight to me. Simply because there's no smaller, lighter and/or cheaper alternative. Alternative in the sense of a 50mm lens with the same rendering and autofocus.

Mystik wrote:
For my the ttarisans 75 is more a compact alternative to my 85GM, and if I were to be honest with myself, from what I've seen so far, it feels like the ttarisans can do most of what I've done on the 85GM for 10 years

I completely agree. But 50mm isn't just my favorite focal length, it's my only focal length for full-frame (I do own a Nokton 1.2/35, but I only bought that for when I want to shoot in square format again, because on 24x24 it's equivalent to a 2.8/80 on 6x6), and I don't want to compromise on that; I want the lens that I like best in terms of image quality. However, the 1.2/50 GM is really my limit, because with the A7iv it weighs the same as my 500c/m with the 2.8/80 Planar. I couldn't have justified anything heavier than my old 6x6 camera to my conscience.


Mystik wrote:
I have my American Fenders but fully acknowledge that the Chinese Squiers can do just as much at a fraction of the cost.

I would do the same. I only really like the 1.2/50 as the only GM anyway. And if there were a Chinese (or wherever) 1.2/50 with autofocus that delivered comparable image rendering to the GM but cost only half as much, I would have bought it immediately, even if the autofocus was worse and it lacked an aperture ring. I'm not a brand fanatic; I couldn't care less whether the lens says GM, Air, or whatever. But I am a fan of the results the 1.2/50 GM delivers. And if that's what I want, then I have to accept the size, weight, and price, even if it's through gritted teeth. But I'm sure that if I were a gear junkie like most people here, with three or more cameras and ten or more lenses that I constantly buy, sell, and then buy again, I would prioritize things differently. Especially if I had to lug all that stuff around in a backpack. But I'm Nifty Fifty and in the end I don't need anything other than 50mm, and 95% of the time I leave the house with only one camera and one lens anyway.

Ultimately, as I have written several times, it is a personal decision, because everyone's circumstances and needs are different.

PS: I took a look at your Flickr and believe it or not, I like the photos you took with the Nikkor 2/40 the best by far, purely in terms of image style. So much for the GM. 😉



Apr 04, 2026 at 02:10 PM
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p.3 #3 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


It's been a very helpful discussion. Appreciate all the input! Next step for me is to visit a couple of London stores and try the lenses in the following order:
1. Sony 50mm 1.2 (and the 1.4 as a size comparison). I have taken test shots with both these lenses in the past but want to refresh my memories of the handling. The f1.2 seems to always edge it in most people's opinions, even when it is shot at smaller apertures than 1.2. It is the Sony GM lens which most seems to attract the description 'special'
2. The Sigma 28-45mm. I don't know if I will be able to find a store with a copy of this lens, but will do a search. If any UK members know a store which might carry it, please tip me off.
3. The Leica Q3 43 comes last. Buying a whole camera is a different proposition. But taking some test shots will help me with further assessment and it may be a future possibility.
For those who recommended the Voigtlander Noctiluxes I can only say I agree with your judgements but wont include those here because I don't find MF easy and quick on the A7CR. I think MF is better on the Q and the M-EV. Probably a combination of optics/EVF resolution/magnification sizes. Will test this too.
Thanks for all the input.



Apr 06, 2026 at 09:08 AM
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p.3 #4 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


rob_ww wrote:
It's been a very helpful discussion. Appreciate all the input! Next step for me is to visit a couple of London stores and try the lenses in the following order:
1. Sony 50mm 1.2 (and the 1.4 as a size comparison). I have taken test shots with both these lenses in the past but want to refresh my memories of the handling. The f1.2 seems to always edge it in most people's opinions, even when it is shot at smaller apertures than 1.2. It is the Sony GM lens which most seems to attract the description 'special'
2. The Sigma 28-45mm. I
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I would consider the Sigma 35 f1.2 too if you are truly looking for a special look. Also something like the CV40. A lot of the special look comes the separation of a fast aperture and this is more pronounced the wider you go. The longer the focal length, the less the aperture actually matters in terms of the look as the compression comes into play. But a wide fast prime is a special thing for sure.

DSC00133 by Mystik, on Flickr

DSC03336 by Mystik, on Flickr



Apr 06, 2026 at 09:29 AM
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p.3 #5 · 'Wow' factor lens treat




Mystik wrote:
I would consider the Sigma 35 f1.2 too if you are truly looking for a special look. Also something like the CV40. A lot of the special look comes the separation of a fast aperture and this is more pronounced the wider you go. The longer the focal length, the less the aperture actually matters in terms of the look as the compression comes into play. But a wide fast prime is a special thing for sure.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54232120732_ea34e8f415_b.jpgDSC00133 by Mystik, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49084248367_ce256f706f_b.jpgDSC03336 by Mystik, on Flickr

These are great pics - more food for thought!



Apr 06, 2026 at 02:32 PM
 


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p.3 #6 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


rob_ww wrote:
I agree with your judgements but wont include those here because I don't find MF easy and quick on the A7CR. I think MF is better on the Q and the M-EV. Probably a combination of optics/EVF resolution/magnification sizes. Will test this too.
Thanks for all the input.

Compared to the C series, this might be true, but even a comparison with the viewfinder of the A7IV/V could tell a different story. I haven't yet a Q3 43 in my hands, only a Q3, but I definitely liked its viewfinder image less than that of the A7IV (however the A7IV had a 50mm lens attached, not a 28mm). This impression still surprised me quite a bit, since I'm not particularly fond of the Sony viewfinder, and the Q3 viewfinder (the M EV-1 has the same one, just without 120Hz) was always so highly praised in reviews, and it also has a higher resolution (although the magnification is slightly lower). I also found the presence of a flicker (moire?) distracting. The Q3 owner I spoke to agreed. But as I said, that was the Q3, not the Q3 43.



Apr 06, 2026 at 02:59 PM
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p.3 #7 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


tsdevine wrote:
A gallery of shots from the 28-45 FWIW.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timdevinephotography/albums/72177720320199720/


28-45 is indeed a special lens. It's kind of where when I buy a lens where I immediately know that I'll have this lens for a very long time. Batis 135 did that to me and so did this one.



Apr 08, 2026 at 10:27 PM
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p.3 #8 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


That Sigma 35mm f1.2 certainly has a wow look to it.

I have a few lenses that are almost wow
- zeiss 35mm f1.4 ZE/ZF
- Zeiss 50mm f1.4 milvus
- Voigtlander 58mm f1.4



Apr 12, 2026 at 01:29 PM
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p.3 #9 · 'Wow' factor lens treat


having owned the rx1r, leica q, sony mirrorless system, I still love the zeiss 35 on the rx1r the most.


Apr 15, 2026 at 02:58 PM
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